Re: [cobalt-developers] RaQ replacements

["pete feeney" <pete@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Has anybody looked at the E-smith package?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave @ The Hostworks" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [cobalt-developers] RaQ replacements


> theres a new cheaper, yet really ncie control panel thats been just
released
> and under developed, www.directadmin.com, its really good, trust me.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Ewart" <cobalt@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 7:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-developers] RaQ replacements
>
>
> > > > Interesting information.  I notice that you reference
> > > majority of concern
> > > > with Plesk.  Do you have the same feedback about Ensim?
> > >
> > > When you install Ensim you use their "Ensim Operating System
> > > Installer" to
> > > install the underlying OS. Which is RedHat-7.3 in their case.
> > > When you then
> > > install their "WEBppliance Pro for Linux" and the related patches it
> > > apparently takes care of the vulnerabilities which exist in
> > > the ancient
> > > RedHat-7.3 distribution.
> > >
> > > So in that regards it appears that Ensim takes care of the
> > > problem, but I have
> > > too little experience with Ensim to judge how thorough their
> > > approach is.
> >
> > I am certainly not an expert with Ensim, however I have a couple of
> > boxen running with it - dual P3 servers I built with the intention of
> > doing shopping carts and other dynamic sites with.
> >
> > Truthfully, I like these MUCH better, and feel a lot better about them
> > from a security standpoint. Essentially there are about a dozen or so
> > rpms you aren't supposed to mess with, but otherwise go for it. I
> > manually process the updates, doing a rpm -qa | grep "rpmname" instead
> > of up2date. This keeps me out of trouble as the rpms I am supposed to
> > leave alone have ensim in their names. Not too much danger of screwing
> > up.
> >
> > Also, I like being able to load it on my own boxes so that I don't have
> > to get locked into a specific manufacturer. I use 2U boxes. Their power
> > supplies are normal ones you can buy at CompUSA or whereever. Helps me
> > sleep a bit better at night with respect to that.
> >
> > Re: their timeliness, it isn't ALWAYS perfect, however it has been
> > CONSIDERABLY better than Sun. Add to that a decent forum/community
> > simliar to the Cobalt world, and it works really well. RackShack has a
> > great Ensim forum. There are a couple of folks there that really excel.
> > Essentially the Staubers, et al of this "world".
> >
> > Re: WEBppliance Pro, I have heard a lot of complaints about switching
> > over to it from the old version, however they really seem to like it
> > once they get there.
> >
> > My experience is very positive so far, and I would never consider
> > another Cobalt box (even if they were not EOL), after playing with them.
> > Then again, your requisite knowledge of Linux is higher, but still not
> > too bad.
> >
> > HTH.
> > Rick
> >
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