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Re: [cobalt-developers] RaQ replacements



theres a new cheaper, yet really ncie control panel thats been just released
and under developed, www.directadmin.com, its really good, trust me.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Ewart" <cobalt@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: [cobalt-developers] RaQ replacements


> > > Interesting information.  I notice that you reference
> > majority of concern
> > > with Plesk.  Do you have the same feedback about Ensim?
> >
> > When you install Ensim you use their "Ensim Operating System
> > Installer" to
> > install the underlying OS. Which is RedHat-7.3 in their case.
> > When you then
> > install their "WEBppliance Pro for Linux" and the related patches it
> > apparently takes care of the vulnerabilities which exist in
> > the ancient
> > RedHat-7.3 distribution.
> >
> > So in that regards it appears that Ensim takes care of the
> > problem, but I have
> > too little experience with Ensim to judge how thorough their
> > approach is.
>
> I am certainly not an expert with Ensim, however I have a couple of
> boxen running with it - dual P3 servers I built with the intention of
> doing shopping carts and other dynamic sites with.
>
> Truthfully, I like these MUCH better, and feel a lot better about them
> from a security standpoint. Essentially there are about a dozen or so
> rpms you aren't supposed to mess with, but otherwise go for it. I
> manually process the updates, doing a rpm -qa | grep "rpmname" instead
> of up2date. This keeps me out of trouble as the rpms I am supposed to
> leave alone have ensim in their names. Not too much danger of screwing
> up.
>
> Also, I like being able to load it on my own boxes so that I don't have
> to get locked into a specific manufacturer. I use 2U boxes. Their power
> supplies are normal ones you can buy at CompUSA or whereever. Helps me
> sleep a bit better at night with respect to that.
>
> Re: their timeliness, it isn't ALWAYS perfect, however it has been
> CONSIDERABLY better than Sun. Add to that a decent forum/community
> simliar to the Cobalt world, and it works really well. RackShack has a
> great Ensim forum. There are a couple of folks there that really excel.
> Essentially the Staubers, et al of this "world".
>
> Re: WEBppliance Pro, I have heard a lot of complaints about switching
> over to it from the old version, however they really seem to like it
> once they get there.
>
> My experience is very positive so far, and I would never consider
> another Cobalt box (even if they were not EOL), after playing with them.
> Then again, your requisite knowledge of Linux is higher, but still not
> too bad.
>
> HTH.
> Rick
>
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