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RE: [cobalt-developers] Re: EOL Product Info



I don't believe that SUN really has big plans with Linux.
If you look at the new server line (Sun Fire) you only
have 2 Server left with Linux (Fire V60/V65 and LX50).
All other Server run with Solaris 8 or 9. They even 
offer a $995 Server (V100) but only with Solaris 8. 
They also have developed a remote management software for 
Solaris called LOMlite2. The Linux development is down to 
zero since the new SUN Fire run a regular Red Hat Linux.
Peter

 
>William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>> Yes I am sure. Look at the new Cobalt products since Sun 
>bought Cobalt.
>> What new products? Exactly my point. The 550 was in 
>development prior to
>> the acquisition.
>
>Not surprisingly, since it's a rather "quick port" from the Qube 3 ?
>(all in good spirit, since the first RaQ was a port from Qube 2700)
>
>> So Sun obviously had no plans to release any new Cobalt products. If
>> they had, they would have been out by now.
>
>They had the hardware. They're now selling it as the "Sun LX50"...
>(without the Cobalt interface, but with RedHat Linux 7.2 on instead)
>
>Half of the available material still says "Sun Cobalt LX50 server".
>
>> Yes, I had a hour conversation with Sun's Linux Developer relations
>> dept. Sun is very serious and committed to Linux.
>
>Somehow, I find that hard to believe. Everything they've shown so far
>has been quite the opposite. "Sun Linux 5.0" was a cruel joke, 
>for sure.
> 
>But it's nice to have Linux as a supported Java platform, these days.
>
>> Suns stance on Cobalt was the complete opposite. Basically 
>there is no
>> more Cobalt. They color still lives on, but that's about it.
>
>"The color" ? Does that mean we'll get another LX50 offering ? :-P
>More blue hardware without the software to make it special...
>
>> Nope, the control station still lives, and supposedly can control
>> LX50's. I can't seem to find anything saying that the 
>control station is
>> also EOL. Anyone?
>
>The control station can monitor the LX50 and push an RPM or two.
>Nothing really special, and nothing one can't find elsewhere...
>
>Not EOL yet. Although it does run on RaQ 4 hardware, if that 
>is a clue ?
>(it'll probably last as long as the RaQ 550 and Sun LX50 does, though)
>
>> Hopefully the will do something beneficial to the Linux 
>world with the
>> existing GUI and admin stuff?
>
>Hopefully. After all, Linuxconf/Webmin needs all the GUI help 
>they can get.
>(being extremely technical and hopelessly ugly, as they after all are)
>
>See http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf | http://www.webmin.com
>
>> So Cobalt as a company, releasing new products, and 
>supporting current
>> ones is dead.
>
>The best thing to hope for is Sun doing the right thing and opening up
>the source code, so that the users can help themselves to 
>updating it...
>Most of the server software is third party open source already,
>but not the Cobalt graphical user interface and "special sauce"?
>
>The most interesting being the Sausalito generation of course,
>including CCE, UIFC, BlueLinQ packages and the Active Monitor.
>(http://ftp.cobalt.sun.com/pub/developer/TechNotes/DevGuide.pdf)
>The rest is "just" standard RedHat Linux, albeit pre-configured.
>
>--anders

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