Re: [cobalt-users] Folder Rights Issue

["Barnaby Mortensen" <cobalt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, that's my 'work around' for it.  I'm wondering if there is something
else I can do.  For example, if I'm developing in Dreamweaver, instead of
saving files out, then su'ing  and uploading, etc. via the command line, how
would one develop live on the server and avoid these folder rights issues?
Is this even possible?

Often times if it's a quick change (needing some graphic work, etc.), I'll
connect through DW via FTP, make the quick edit and save it out live on the
server..done in like 5 seconds.  I know I can ssh in, SU, etc. and do this
all with PICO or what have you, but it would be a dream if I could fire up
DW and make these changes live without having to impact the user rights on
the folders.

My other work around has been to set up a secondary account in DW so when I
FTP in, I'm using the siteadmin's account.  But I don't want to be
responsible for all the siteadmin's usernames and passwords.  I'd like to
give them SOME privacy.

I suppose ssh and SU would be my best option to eliminate those annoying
folders that can't be deleted.  But what about the other issues?  Perhaps
it's just the nature of the beast and there really isn't an easy answer.

Barnaby



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur Sherman" <arturs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:58 AM
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Folder Rights Issue


> You could ssh to your server as cobalt admin, and su later - this would
give
> you rights over others files.
> I also think su'ing will help with your second question as well, won't it?
>
> Arthur Sherman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barnaby Mortensen
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:45
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cobalt-users] Folder Rights Issue
>
> I'm pretty sure this is a straightforward issue and I'm pretty sure it's a
> users rights issue.  I know a long winded way to get around this, but
wanted
> to get some feedback from the group.
>
> Typically clients will ask me to quick do this, or quick do that on the
> server.  I'll log in via FTP as admin, move to their directory and make
the
> changes (add a folder, remove a folder, a file, etc.)
>
> I've noticed two things:
>
> 1)If a user FTP's in with his username and creates a folder, my admin
> account can't get ownership rights to that folder to make some changes
> (delete, etc.)  Is this common?  Shouldn't admin have the ability to alter
> (delete folders, etc.) anything on the server?
>
> 2)If I FTP in as admin and make changes to a user's directory (create a
> folder, etc.) the user then doesn't have the necessary rights to make
> changes (delete, etc.) to that folder I created (rename, delete, etc.)  If
a
> user has site admin priveleges on the entire site, shouldn't they be able
to
> do what they need to do to administer the entire site directory?  I've
also
> seen situations where a user of a site FTP's in, creates a folder.  Then
the
> siteadmin FTP's in and tries to delete it--no avail.
>
> I know CHMOD'ing the folders helps with some rights issues, but  not all.
>
> Has anyone come across this and have they found a way around it?  The two
> most important things I want to do is a)have the ability (as admin) to
edit
> folders (delete, etc.) that users on the server may have created and
b)work
> as admin in a site's directory and allow the site admin to have the
> necessary rights to folders in that directory for deleting, etc.
>
> I'm not powerhungry.....I just manage a lot of client sites on my server
and
> don't want to limit myself or the client's siteadmin anywhere along the
way.
>
> Thoughts??
>
> BTW:  My server is a Cobalt RaQ XTR
>
> Thanks...
>
> Barnaby
>
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