RE: [cobalt-users] SPAM relay bouncing causing mailserver on our network to retry constantly

["Dan Kriwitsky" <list1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> 
> I get "false" positives from realtors whose office mail 
> servers have become listed in DNBLs all the time.  We work 
> with a lot of companies that work with realtors, and we've 
> come across the problem many times.

Chances are they have a worm and are an open proxy/relay for spam.

> 
> >
> >> If *ANY* hosting provider simply bounces
> >> email on the basis that it has been  identified as SPAM, they are 
> >> exposed to liability for lost emails which are incorrectly 
> identified 
> >> as SPAM.
> >
> >No, they're certainly not. If you can cite any court ruling 
> in a case 
> >where an ISP has been held liable for blocked email I'd love 
> to see it.
> 
> 
> I certainly don't intend becoming a test case - it's also 
> more to do with customer service.

What test case? You said they are exposed for liability. That would
require a court ruling or law to that effect.

> If you've ever NOT 
> received email because the sender's network was listed, you'd 
> understand.

I have and my former web host was listed and I do understand. The
problem is spam and spammers and the ISPs that harbor them, not DNSBLs
and blacklists.

> 
> >
> >BTW, SPAM is a trademark of Hormel. Junk email is spam.
> 
> I know.  I use the capitalized version out of choice - like 
> people really have a problem determining that I'm not talking 
> about mechanically reclaimed and processed pork & fat.

No, but if you were speaking and said Nassau while talking about the
space shuttle when you meant to say NASA people would also understand
what you were saying.
-- 
C2003 Dan Kriwitsky

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