Re: [cobalt-users] OT: Unsolicited Commercial Email IP's

["E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

MS> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:29:34 -0700 (PDT)
MS> From: Mike Smith


MS> What I have concluded - and correct me if I am mistaken - is that in
MS> this day and age of cable modems and dsl, ISP's are *not* instructing
MS> their clients in matters of internet security. I'm certain that many
MS> users have trojans or back doors on their machines and are not aware of
MS> this - and their machine become, if nothing else, spam generators, or
MS> at least offer the opportunity for the spam-meisters to bounce off of
MS> these machines. If this is true, then doesn't the responsibility of

You are extremely correct.  It's been this way for a couple
years, and seems to be getting worse. :-(


MS> informing and instructing cable modem and dsl users fall onto the ISP's
MS> who provide such services? If so - does anyone feel that these ISP's
MS> are lacking in their responsibilities? Or does it fall on the user? (As
MS> in, one cannot blame GM or Ford for an accident if one cannot drive a
MS> vehicle).

Is it the fault of the software vendor, the computer owner, or
the ISP?  I'd say software should have *safe* defaults, and
people should know WTH they're doing on their computer systems
before tinkering.  I'd also like it if more ISPs blocked outbound
25/TCP... run authenticated relaying on other ports.  Ditch
POP-before-SMTP.

As long as there's another party to blame, that seems to be the
easiest "answer".  Unfortunately, it's by no means the best one.


Eddy
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