[cobalt-users] raq550 vs xserve, AppleRaQ etc etc etc

["Si Watts" <simon@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

OK, sorry to all genuine list members for chogging up the archives with yet
another post on this totally irrelevant subject but.... enough already!

I joined this list for help from fellow cobalt users on the administration
of my cobalt server appliance. I did not join this list to read total drivel
from people who obviously have some sort of axe to grind. If you don't like
your RaQ's, get rid of them, I'm sure there are plenty of people out there
who would take them from you without any hesitation. I like my RaQ. It does
everything I was promised. It serves web pages beautifully and takes very
little time to administrate. That is why I took it. Now why this list has
become the users-bash-cobalt list is beyond me, but frankly I'm fed up of
it.

If you want to bash cobalt, feel free, but please do it elsewhere.

Those of you that perpetually bash the cobalt product saying that cobalt
should give you free upgrades for life should take a real hard look at what
you are expecting.
When you buy a car, and lets say FORD update the model a year later, do you
expect a *free upgrade path*? Do Ford come around and say, "sorry, your old
car needs a new engine because we just developed a new one, so here is your
free one"? When Microsoft bring out a new version of their OS, does Bill
Gates generously issue every registered user with a free upgrade? When Apple
bring out XSERVE2 will they automatically issue every XSERVE1 user with a
new server? Would Apple even replace the OS for you? The answer to all these
questions is NO. So why should Sun Cobalt? These are commercial companies in
exactly the same way that you and I are. Wonderful as the open source
community is, virtually anybody can make a commercial product based upon
those open source softwares, but just because the roots are in OSS, that
doesn't mean that they should support it for life. I mean come on guys, you
want a server for $1000 - $1500, for it to be inpenetrable to the outside
worlds security hazzards, you want it to be totally self administering AND
you want the company who made it to issue you with free software upgrades
for life?? I think some of you need to start living in the real commercial
world where EVERYBODY is entitled to make a profit to survive. If you can't
make your servers pay, then it is your business at fault, not SUN.

Anyway, rant over, can we please get back to the purpose of this list.

Regards

Si Watts

A p.s. for Paul Jacobs;

:>OS 2.0 update....
:>why would sun not put in on the box in the first place?

Well, had you ever considered that this server may have been in-stock for
some considerable time, ie before the OS2 update was released??????