Re: [cobalt-users] Are all packages model specific ?

[Josh Kuperman <josh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I just want to make sure that in a sense you are validating some of
the constant griping that the documentation sucks. I bought this
because the machine needs to be manageable when I'm not here. And web
and email is 80% of the use of any machine sitting on the net. That
part is fine. 

Personally, I was always happy with compiling from tarballs. I have no
problems with RPMs or even with Source RPMs and rebuilding. I just
want to determine what's already been done on my machine. It gets
confounded when I see the RPMs for samba but no package for samba. It
seems that ipcahins is installed, there is an option for controlling
bandwidth. If I install squid manually am I going to mess up what's
there.

If I'm right in taking it as don't worry about the backages just let
them manage DNS, MAIL, and the WEB, and treat the rest of the machine
as any RedHat box I still have problems. One of the tricks for Squid
to make it a rewriting or reverse proxy is to run Squid on port 80 and
the local server on 127.0.0.1. Doesn't look doable on this box. The
versions of BIND and SENDMAIL look dangerously old; is that my
imagination.

I will search and read through the archives. I get the feeling from 30
seconds even glancing at the last weeks posts that I'm not the first
to have a problem with how these boxes are documented.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 10:15:39PM -0400, Steve Werby wrote:
> "Josh Kuperman" <josh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I bought a RaQ XTR because it seems the most powerful, but many of the
> > programs I would like to set up seem to be not included ( or not
> > preinstalled or maybe even simply not documented).
> 
> The RaQs run a modified Red Hat OS.  There's lots of software installed
> which isn't covered in the server's manual.
> 
> > Can I run a package
> > for a different model?
> 
> Depends on the package.  There are differences between each RaQ model so a
> PKG built for one RaQ may not work on another.  Unless you're comfortable
> unpacking PKGs and inspecting the associated RPMs, shell scripts and files I
> would be very cautious about installing a PKG built for another RaQ.
> 
> > Is seems that other RaQs and Cubes have way
> > more software available. If I can't simply run a package can I rebuild
> > a package for the XTR?
> 
> See above.
> 
> > In any case I don't seem to have any package for SAMBA though I can
> > get in through a shell and see it was at least installed. I do have
> > some bandwidth controls, but I don't seem to have a fullfledged
> > rewriting proxy server.  I can't find any signs that squid was ever
> > installed. I don't want to mess up bandwidth controls. I have built
> > squid many times. It was the Squid FAQ that first pointed me toward
> > Cobalt Servers. Is there a proxy package for the XTR. Can I build and
> > run squid through the regular compilation process without a package?
> >
> > Finding the whole thing very curious. I get in with a shell account
> > and do an "rpm -qa" and it looks like tons of stuff is installed. But
> > from the web interface it seems that all I have is email, dns, and
> > web.
> 
> Josh, there's a lot more than that installed.  The web interface only allows
> management of a very small portion of the installed software.  Perhaps
> that's the confusion.  I've installed hundreds of programs from source,
> dozens from RPM (I prefer installing from source) on the RaQs.  It's usually
> pretty straightforward, though there are some differences from straight Red
> Hat systems.  If you're going to be getting down and dirty doing some
> serious server administration I'd advise reading the cobalt list religiously
> if you're not already and getting familiar with the web archives at
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ (I prefer them to other searchable archives of
> the Cobalt lists).  I've been doing Cobalt server administration for 3 years
> and it's sometimes an adventure (server admin consulting services are part
> of what I do).
> 
> HTH,
> 
> --
> Steve Werby
> President, Befriend Internet Services LLC
> http://www.befriend.com/
> 
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