At 19:46 30/04/2002 -0400, you wrote:
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Surfbaud wrote: > > and you are giving money to the bad guys (inflow) so whatever that does > make you, it doesn't make you one of the good guys... > you live in a spamhaus, either get inflow to clean up their act (pigs + > flying) or vote with your wallet... > Gee, you forgot the SPEWS logic....since you're supporting the spam house, we will list you as a spammer, even if you're not. And if your business suffers, too bad...we warned you.
that is NOT the spews logic...everything else has been tried, and you just end up playing whack-a-mole as the offending ISP just swaps IP on the spammer instead of kicking them, read what spews stands for....
these are *MY* bastard servers an *I* decide who can communicate with them, if people don't like that then they should choose their (upstream) company with a little more care....
if you decide to host your business in the internet equivalent of a ghetto and your business suffers as a result of it while you rot in an intranet then that *IS* too bad, if *I* faced such a problem I would move my servers, it isn't like there is a world shortage of rackspace....
If people refuse to move out of a crack ghetto then they had better get used to being treated with suspicion.
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