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Re: [cobalt-users] Need advice on Colocating or Self Location



On 4/11/02 12:23 AM, "cobalt-users-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<cobalt-users-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: "E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> [ extensively snipped, as usual ]
> 
> 
>> Granted (pardon the pun), but once you have one raq running,
>> the others are easier to figure out.  And once you have a
>> connection, unless you're planning to host major multinational
>> sites, you can put quite a few boxes online.  I'm studying the
>> benefits of whipping up an office communication ASProvider with
>> my local network and php gods.  As luck would have it, I'm a
>> far better designer than they are, so they want me on the
>> project.
> 
> Web designer != routing guru

Yes, I am a routing GOD!
 
> So, do you plan to throw all the boxes in the same network
> segment, where one can easily DoS your router or DNS servers?
> Traffic sniffing parties?  Ready to deal with upstreams when you
> play with BGP?  (The fast path, pun intended, to routing bliss is
> direct contact with network engineers.  Forget it if you don't
> have routing clue.)

When the routing GOD feels like routing things, he calls Kendall (a
congested suburb of Miami) and speaks with his network engineer friends.  I
have a buddy doing it for Telephonica SA and the other manages the data
center that I'm currently working for, but is a past employee of Uunet.
Between the two of them (if I so desire) I can (and do on occasion for other
things) get expert advice from people who really know how to route.  I can't
learn every last thing about it, but I know which way is up and down, and
how to call them.  Also, I don't do silly things like spamming and porn
hosting, my sites aren't really very attractive hacker targets thus far.

> Sorry... I've seen too many "I can build a colo too" facilities
> that are clueless when it comes to what's needed.

I'm not worried about building a co-lo today.  I'm more concerned with
hosting individual sites.  Should I continue to grow at my initial pace.  I
will have a few boxes next year, and will start to have full redundant
backup as of two weeks (I think) when raq number two arrives.  Not sure bout
that right now though.

> Ever had a bad support experience?

Interland specializes in them, I had three sites there when their bloody
death as a company (read merger with host pro) completed.  Their sucking
helped me into hosting my own.

> Now, how will you provide better for your clients?  You need the
>infrastructure clue.

For the time being, I have a great strategy for providing better.  Grow over
time and keep pace with what I can actually handle.  That means, I'm going
to give time for the business to grow, not go for silicon valley style
overnight company (zing!).
 
>> I don't know 'bout you, but I just want a big, fat, data
>> pipe.  Just ordered the OC-48 for my closet at home. Ok, just a
>> dream.
> 
> I'd much rather dream of Nx OC-12 connections with rich community
> support for inbound and outbound routes.  But, hey, I like to
> think that I have a fair idea what I'm doing when I route. ;-)

I am really dreaming about a yipes fiber pipe with realtime bandwidth on
demand, but whatever pipe you like . . . . .

grant
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