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Re: [cobalt-users] Pop before SMTP - I've had enough.



Quoting Gerald Waugh <gwaugh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> On Friday 29 March 2002 02:49 pm, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> > Benedict wrote:
> > > You mean the public one? Most users have their Cobalt machine
> > > running inside some LAN, using 10. or 192. IP-ranges
> >
> > Most of us sure don't.  I can speak for thousands of Cobalt RaQs on the
> > public network.  How many can you speak for on private networks?

No wonder so many of those RaQs get compromised. I sure as hell
would never connect servers directly to the world. Always use NAT,
routing and/or firewalling in between the RaQs and the world.
All servers I know are routed within private IP-ranges.

> > > They're not using it to relay, they use a different smtp,
> > > namely that of their ISP most likely.
> 
> Maybe I am misunderstood the issue here, This sounds a little different than
> Leonard Paynes email.

Not to me. I have experienced the error from the other end myself.
I tried sending an email to a disfunctional RaQ4 and got back
the error Leonard described, about relaying(!?).
This is not good and should be looked into.

> > The generic message is replaced with a specific message by the POP
> > before SMTP package, but your problem is NOT a POP before SMTP problem.
> > Your problem is that your Raq for some reason doesn't think the domain
> > is local to it.

When I switch on the option for POP autheticated SMTP,
it should not switch off by itself later on. The RaQs do that
after installing recent patches. They behave uncontrollable,
that is what Leonard and I have seen, and you don't.

> Besides this would result in an "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender"
> message to the senders email, not a "relaying denied error"

Exactly his point. That's why he wrote the sentence about
mail and the list.

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