Re: [cobalt-users] Need advice on Colocating or Self Location

["E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:01:36 -0800
> From: Jeff Lasman <jblists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

( snipping as I so often do )


> I said "advertise the benefits".  When all is said and done, at

Ah, okay.  Yes, that makes sense.


> Without ordering a T3 and waiting for the telco to isntall
> it... that's an advantage.

Yes, that is.  I just wanted to combat the common misconception
that "an OC3 is 100x as fast as a T1".


> Now I finally ralize what you mean.  Inflow isolates us other cabinets
> from the others in just this way.  When we decide to put in our own

Exactly.


> router are you available for consulting so we can protect our clients
> from each other?  Might be soon now <smile>.

Beyond saying "yes", I'll catch you off-list.  Anything more
would be a plug more shameless than even I'm comfortable
making. *grin*

In fact, it's not unreasonable to segment one's own machines from
one another in certain circumstances.  With good switches readily
available for < $100/port, it can be cheap insurance.


> Jay spent $35,000 for his new colo room.  Plus his monthly nut of about

The up-front fees aren't bad.  I've been toying with a new
building that's in a good location for one particular market at a
good price... and would probably require $70k on top to make it
suitable.  Compared to monthly, however, the up front fees are
pretty tame.


> $5,000.  He's got 3,000 hosting customers.  I think he'd have done
> better with a cabinet at Inflow.  Just my opinion.

$5000/mo buys a chunk of colo, several DS1s, or a frac-DS3.


> And for those of us with less than a quarter-rack full of machines,
> going with the small colocators (like us <smile>) is probably a more
> cost-effective solution.

Yup.  Of course, if this keeps up, we may as well rename the
thread to "Eddy and Jeff give advise, with several plugs thrown
in". *smirk*


> Yes.  But how do you find the right ones?  Any suggestions?

Someone on NANOG had a pretty good post the other day.  Let me
dig it up and repost here; it's already public domain.


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