Re: [cobalt-users] How many can I host on a T1 Line (Cobalt 4)

[Brent Sims <bs@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Jeff Lasman wrote:

} I'm shocked, I had no idea <frown>.  I'm running ssh2 myself, but I'll
} be in touch with my clients today to make sure they're all doing the
} same.

Trust me, I know... been there done that. We've been playing with it
since the initial release. I simply could not believe what I saw the
first time I fired it up here. The worst part about it is that
protecting against it is more than bit difficult. VLANs seem to work
- for now...

} I'm not in Qwest local territory; I presume I'd have to pay for the
} local loop.

	As far as quality of connectivity is concerned we may as
well just hunker and down and prepare for argument that will never
ever end :-) I do, however, know that Qwest is a RBOC and because,
I was told, of anti-monopoly laws of some sort, they cannot supply
bandwidth in the areas they serve. Thus, when dealing with a RBOC
the real question is, is the RBOC that's no good or the ISP they are
buying the bandwidth from that's dropping the ball?

	The local loop is an issue. The quotes we received ranged
from as low as $200.00 to over $900.00 per month for the loop alone.
While there were variations amongst those that we'd connect to via a
zero mile local loop, we learned that the best prices can be had
from ISPs that had a POP close to us. We're right downtown, just 4
blocks from Qwest's bunker so the list was a long one but this is
indeed a valid consideration.

	I don't, however, believe these offers are limited to Qwest.
I've seen ads in trade magazines that have lead me to believe this
particular sales channel is commonly used by RBOCs. That makes sense
when you think about it. Calling Qwest to order a DS1, for example,
is pretty much an exercise in futility. Eventually someone who knows
there stuff will call you back but the odds of you getting anywhere
on your first call are slim to nothing. Survival itself, perhaps,
demands that an alternative sales channel exist.

	The problem is finding a representative of that sales
channel. We shopped for a good 5 months before we were found by
someone who could make us the deal I explained. "We were found"
being the key phrase. Today we get approached quite often with
bandwidth deals but offers such as I mentioned are few and far
between. Nevertheless, I'd be such an offer exists where you are.
The RBOC there most certainly has a reseller channel. It may be
difficult to find but I'm sure it exists.

	I gotta bail out now. Too darn busy to chat.

	Peace be with you,

	Brent Sims
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