Re: [cobalt-users] How many can I host on a T1 Line (Cobalt 4)

[Brent Sims <bs@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Jeff Lasman wrote:

} If you've got a sniffer that can read SSL and SSH encrypted traffic
} please take your invention to CERT and get it validated as such
} <smile>.  Because if you can sniff and read passwords, etc., in real
} time, then you've got an amazing invention.

Hi Jeff,

	I did not invent it. I did, however dowload it at the
below listed URL and so can you. While you can shoot at me me for
neglecting to mention that it currently can only sniff SSH1, I
suspect there are a whole lot of people on this list using SSH1, and
"sniff SSH" ettercap most certainly can do:

	http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/

} Brent, if you know of any providers offering sub $500 T-1, which is what
} it sounds like you're saying, please direct me to URLs of companies
} offering same; I've not seen one yet that's not fraught with fine-print
} that makes it much more expensive in the long run.  I've been trying to
} find such a connect (anywhere) for some time.

	I did not buy one as we decided to focus on name recognition
when buying connectivity. However while shopping for the most bang
for our bucks, I inadvertently stumbled upon a sales channel which
was discussed on the ISP Bandwidth list about last November or so.
You might want to search the archives. What started the discussion
was an offer I received for a Qwest circuit by a authorized Qwest
reseller for a third of what Qwest would sell me the very same
circuit for. Most interesting, at least to me, was that the contract
was with Qwest, the SLA was too, and the invoices came from Qwest
too. The price, however, was only available from the reseller - so
were some of the offers. I don't like posting prices that I can't
substantiate on a public forum but, as I recall, a 128kbps
point-to-point was the low end offer and it was just about $340.00
per month on a one year contract - $200.00 for the loop and ports
from 128kbps and up were offered at substantially less than what I
knew to be market rate. One of our hosting clients, who works for
SGI there in silicon valley, first offered us the deal. I've since
been contacted by many others who offered the very same deal since
but I didn't save their contact information. While I do indeed have
contact information for the client mentioned above and could
therefor save you some time, you are a competitor and, well, you
just loudly called me a liar in a public and archived forum...

	I'm in a good mood though. If you can find the discussion
I started regarding my experience on the ISP-Bandwidth list you'll
probably find all you need to know to find yourself a similar offer.

	Peace be with you,

	Brent Sims, Customer Service Manager
	WebOkay Internet Services, LLC
	http://www.WebOkay.net
	mailto: Brent@xxxxxxxxxxx
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