Re: [cobalt-users] Re:Listserv Software for Raq3

[Jeff Lasman <jblists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Brent Sims wrote:

> The only problems we've ran into are that mailman requires
> some additions to the httpd.conf file and, well, we renumbered quite
> a few times this year (upstreams going into bankruptcy) and the
> mailman additions were overwritten each time we reset the network
> settings on our Cobalt boxes. I'm sure you'd see this possibility
> during the install though.

I'm presuming that the instructions are pretty clear as to what must be
changed and/or added.  If the additions are truly that, additions, and
not changes, then there's a possibility they can be put into access.conf
instead; the newer versions of apache don't care which file you use. 
And access.conf appears to be left alone by the Cobalt sauce.  I'll try
that at some point, unless you already have and know it doesn't work.

> Stale lock files, I'm sure, cause most of
> the problems I've seen on this list and those that we've experienced
> with our installations. I'm really not sure about this but I believe
> them to be the result of users that don't log out. When weird things
> start happening take a peek in .../mailman/locks/ and clean up the
> mess (cron is your friend :-).

Hmmmm... locks???  I guess I'll see what you mean when I start the
install.  I thought that mailman is configured entirely by http.  I
can't understand the concept of locks in an http environment, since http
is stateless.

> Other than those blasted stale lock
> files (figuring out the reason why mailman just stopped working
> took quite a bit of effort the first time it happened here), Mailman
> truly rocks.

Presuming you put the "unlocks" into a cron file, how often do you run
it?

> Administration is a breeze and our users love it. The
> only thing I don't like about it is the directory permissions
> mailman requires to run are a bit too loose for my taste.

But you do use it, right?  If you don't allow telnet/ssh logins for your
customers and if you tighten up ftp well, then are directory permissions
okay?  I can put this into it's own machine eventually, but for now I do
want to try it on the RaQ.

Should I just let you install it for me <smile>?

Jeff
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