On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Dom wrote:
> Thom said:
>
> > > Wow...and some of us may have been under the impression that it was an
> > > unmoderated list.
> >
> > My *understanding* is that the list *is* unmoderated, but if for
instance
> > you post from a non-subscribed email address, it gets put on the to-be-
> > approved pile. But I could be wrong.
> Hopefully someone from Sun will let us know either way. If this list is
> moderated, it certainly could explain the delays we've seen from time to
> time and the complaints from some users that certain posts from them on
> certain subjects never make it to the list.
> Thom
First of all, the cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx email address points
to cobaltusers@xxxxxxxxxx, which is a full mailbox (I have to assume that
it is full because no one is checking it.) I went ahead and temporarily
changed that address to my Sun address so at least messages to the "admin"
will be received and replied to in a timely manner.
I called some people at Cobalt yesterday. Here is what I found out:
-- Since this is a support list, it was supposed to have been maintained
by Cobalt Support, who apparently passed it on to someone else when Cobalt
got bought out by Sun. The person they passed it on to has not since done
anything to the list, and does not show up as a subscriber. So, the best I
can figure out is that either he has delegated authority to someone else
who has not taken responsibility, or that he has forgotten about it. I
called him yesterday and left voicemail. I am out of the office today, but
I'll be back on Tuesday after the holiday (hopefully, assuming my wisdom
teeth removal scheduled for this morning goes okay. ;)
-- The cobalt-announce and cobalt-security lists ARE actively moderated by
Jeff Lovell, who is also maintaining the physical box "list.cobalt.com".
In the past, the list has been unmoderated as far as requiring approval
for subscriber posts, etc. The reason I jumped into all of this is because
there have been a couple of prominent cases where someone needed to step
in and say, "Okay, this is how it is going to be." The two that come to
mind are the debate about selling RaQs through the list and the "Out of
Office" fiasco which could have been prevented. I am not yet willing to
claim "admin" for myself -- first of all, I want to see who the admin is
supposed to be and why no one has yet taken responsibility for this list,
and I will work with the Cobalt people from there. I do promise you that
there will be an admin in the future.
To address your concern about comments never making it to the list, the
list has a setting about users who are not subscribed to this list. All
users who are not subscribed require approval before their post makes it
to the list. Since no one has been maintaining the list, the posts never
got approved. I approved several a couple of days ago and set the list to
notify me whenever there are new ones, so that problem should be
alleviated, if only temporarily.
I will keep the list notified as to what is going on. :)
Erica
web developer, Sun.com