RE: [cobalt-users] Cobalts for sale - OT

["Dan Kriwitsky" <webhosting@xxxxxxxxx>]

> Jeff Lassman wrote:
> >I mention a book as a resource to help answer a question.  I don't
> >necessarily sell the book, but it IS a way to help answer the question.
>
> IMHO there still seems to be a bit of hypocrisy going on. IE it's "OK"
> for YOU to promote the sale of a commercial retail product as long as
> you have determined that it is "a way to help" - where as if someone
> else decides that offering a RaQ for sale may also be helpful to members
> of the list it is NOT "OK".

Why don't you go back to the beginning of this thread and the asinine
comparison someone made when I mentioned some O'Reilly books. My mention of
those was in direct reply to someone who in their post asking questions
about their RaQ specifically asked for recommendations on books. That's
where this nonsense started. If you can find a better printed and detailed
"manual" on Apache, Sendmail, or any of the other software on the Cobalt
server, please let me know.

>
> And apparently there are other "special rules" - like it's not ok to
> start a topic that promotes the sale of a retail product... So I guess
> posting "I found a great book or software application.. Check out
> blahblahblah" would be inappropriate, but responding to a topic of
> "Anyone know of any great books or software" is ok?

When someone asks for specific help related to a Cobalt server, why not.
Cobalt servers are specifically marketed for those that know or need to know
nothing about Linux, Apache, etc., but you quickly find you do need *some*
basic knowledge and the O'Reilly books fill that need. I haven't looked at
the Cobalt $$$ training materials. On the other hand, this isn't a generic
*Nix mailing list so starting a thread about a non-Cobalt specific product
or software app., IMO, would be OT.

>
> I guess the bottom line is this... If I ever want to sell one of my
> RaQ's I'll probably post to this list as it would seem that there might
> be a good chance that someone on the list would be interested in
> purchasing it.

And I'm sure there are people on this list who *might* be interested in
buying just about any computer hardware someone might have for sale. But
this isn't a Cobalt "for sale" list. Why don't you just go to the archives
and harvest all the addresses of subscribers from posts and send the mail
individually instead of via the list.

> What I have a problem with is
> when a person takes it upon themselves to go outside the list and notify
> someone's ISP that they are "spamming" the list. I would have to say
> that I find that act of playing "Judge, Jury, and Executioner" on behalf
> of the list to be way more offensive than ANYTHING I have ever read on
> the list.
>

No, the ISP plays that role. Your ISP is Sprint, I gather from your IP:

http://www.sprint.net/abuse.htm
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Dan Kriwitsky