Re: [cobalt-users] Possible spammer or what?

[Marco Baurdoux <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

People please !!!!!!

If you guys want to continue, then please do it off list.

I beg you !!!


le 22.8.2001 16:17, baltimoremd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx à
baltimoremd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx a écrit :

> On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Greg Hewitt-Long wrote:
> 
>>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Greg Hewitt-Long wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> http://www.worldwidemart.com/scripts/formmail.shtml
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And one of the most abused scripts in the history of CGI enters another
>>>> phase,
>>>> whereby it will *PROBABLY* take *AT LEAST* a month for some kid to find
>>>> another exploit!
>>> 
>>> Did you even bother to go to the url and read the changes?  Did you
>>> compare them to any of the fixes for formmail that have been posted
>>> in various lists, web pages, etc?
>> 
>> 
>> Yes,  we keep abreast of World Wide Mart script releases -
>> after all, Matt Wright *IS* from Fort Collins - Did you check out where
>> our offices were, view *OUR* web site - make any connection?  Any
>> inference, or are you simpy applying your own 'half-baked' logic?
> 
> Your location relative to any software author doesn't have anything to do
> with the script, it's plusses and minuses, etc.
> 
> You know, you're pretty quick to accuse folks, aren't you?  And you seem
> to have a penchant for attributing negative things of your own making to
> others.  
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry - don't trust it as far as I can throw it - next thing, you'll be
>>>> telling me that windoze is cool and Microshaft has my best interests at
>>>> heart!  *** PAH!!! ***
>>> 
>>> No, I don't engage in that type of strawman logic...I'll leave it to you
>>> to make assumptions and attribute things to others that they never said.
>> 
>> 
>> We'll simply not implement scripts and tools which have a history of being
>> abused - 
> 
> Ah, so that means you don't use any of the cobalt scripts, packages that
> may have been compromised at one time or another?
> 
> 
> whether the author claims to have fixed it (v1.7) and then
> fixed it again (v1.8) then most recently, fixed it again with v1.9 - do you
> HONESTLY think it's wise to take HIS WORD FOR IT?
> 
> Well, let's see, it appears that exploits were discovered, corrections
> were made.  Granted, if Matt Wright had a crystal ball, he could have written
> the script years ago to counter the recent exploits.
> 
> Come to think of it...everyone who came up with a fix for the script
> should have used their crystal ball years ago, to not only indentify the
> exploit(s), but also fox them.  Shame on all of them for not being
> prognosticators of future events.
> 
>>> 
>>> Of course, since you seem to be so knowledgeable about formmail, you could
>>> do us all a favor and tell us why the new version is so bad.
>> 
>> 
>> Please refer to my previous sentence - I don't trust something that's been
>> proven to be security risk 3 releases in a row - my natural distrust of
>> people who have REPEATEDLY been proven wrong prevents me from taking
>> something they claim with a new release as gospel.
> 
> You still haven't answered the question about whether or not the new
> version incoporates fixes.  Not that anyone really cares, but I believe
> someone as objective and knowledgeable as yourself might actually be a
> great source of information about the script.
> 
>> If you are rather more trusting of software authors whose products have been
>> found lacking many, many, MANY times before, that is indeed, up to you!
> 
> Interesting point.  Perhaps you'll release the perfect script...I'll be
> happy to beta test it.
> 
>> If so, I have some excellent *BARGAINS* you may be interested in - want
> to buy a used car for starters?
> 
> Tell ya buddy, based on your pompous attitude, strawman logic and proven
> track record in this thread of attributing things to me that I never said,
> I wouldn't buy water from you if I was in the desert.
> 
> thom
> 
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