Re: [cobalt-users] Re: Re: Re: whois...'nt.

[baltimoremd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Charlie Summers wrote:

> At 10:18 PM -0400 7/20/01, baltimoremd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx is rumored to have
> typed:
> 
> > In some areas the twisted logic is well thought out...take majordomo
> 
>    Yuck. I can't imagine anyone wasting perl processes on list email. I'm a
> strong SmartList proponent - it certainly isn't Listproc, but it's got the
> smallest resource footprint of any of the mailing list managers, being
> written in speedy and small C.

Ah...but, pray tell, how does site administrator x access it from his
control panel?

For me, just figuring out how to get the control panel accessed majordomo
to do some normal majordomo tricks was a major event(g).

> 
>    (Hum...I created a user this afternoon with useradd on the command line,
> since I wanted a SmartList user that wasn't attached to a website - you don't
> suppose that that is what caused the mail to fail, do you?)

Not sure...take him out and see.
> 
> > Side benefit....at 200 bucks per hour for support, a basterdized system
> > could be a profit center.
> 
>    Ah...now THAT'S starting to make a great deal of sense.

You might want to read "The Prince"....the lessons in intrigue may help
you to understand "The Way".


> to be non-routine tasks. (Look at their inability to provide a PHP 4 .pkg
> file - PHP/MySQL are practically the most popular e-commerce duo in the low-
> to mid-range market, and apparently none of the people being paid by Sun can
> figure out how to install it on a RaQ.

I disagree, there are a lot of smart folks assigned to the RaQ team.  But,
let's face it, as long as Appliance Operators like me buy the boxes...Sun
doesn't have a lot of motivation to provide the latest version of
anything.

I don't disagree with their smarts...but I realize that we're all part of
a "captured" market place.  Some of us just rent the things..so we can
easily move...others, like me, actually own the things...and are therefore
"more stuck".


> 
>    The trick is to learn to work around the self-imposed limits. You're right
> that I have too good a deal to not use a RaQ, but I do _not_ have to settle
> for doing everything the Cobalt way (which equates to: if Sun doesn't provice
> it, you aren't allowed to do it.)

I've seen a lot on this list on how to "work around the
limits"...hopefully you'll be able to add to that area of knowledge so
that all us little grasshoppers can benefit.

> 
> > Welcome to the wide, wonderful and logical(g)  world of Cobalt.
>    You take way too much glee in saying that...   ;)

I think there's a biblical refernence for this sort of thing:
"Kick thee not against the pricks"...or something close to that.

thom
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