Re: [cobalt-users] ADMIN OF LIST >>> SPASM PROBLEM

[Lyle Scheer <lyle.scheer@xxxxxxx>]

baltimoremd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> On Fri, 25 May 2001, Cyril wrote:
>
> > When I send a mail I receive this answer :
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---------------
> > Reason was -- Cannot deliver to addresses [ircservices@xxxxxxxxxxxxx].
> >
> > Returning to sender
>
> It's one of the joys being subscribed to a list that doesn't have any
> management.  The addressee's mailbox is full...so you get a bounce
> message...and if you contact his ISP, you get no help, no action.
>
> If the cobalt list is set up so that the list owner gets a copy of the
> bounced messages, then  he/she isn't reading them, or reading and ignoring
> them.
>
> Of course the list may be set up to that the list owner doesn't get the
> messages, thus they don't have to ignore them.

It appears to be worse than that... I looked on the mailman page for the
cobalt-users list, and it says that the Cobalt Users list owner is a one
"cobaltusers@xxxxxxxxxx".  Now, as I happen to be able to telnet to
mail.cobalt.com since I have an account on it, I poked about a bit, and
discovered that there is a cobaltusers account on the box, no forward in the
account, no alias in the aliases files, and 25 megabytes of mail in that
account's mail spool.  Looks like nobody is home.  I'll do a little poking around
to see who in my organization thinks they own Cobalt Users.  I suspect I'll find
out what you have already surmised.

> It's just another example of bad management at the head shed.
>

Not so much bad management as nonexistant management.  Blech.

- Lyle