[cobalt-users] cheapest raq server

["Kime Ne!!!" <ahm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi there,
I want to buy unused raq servers. But I don't know, from where I can buy the
cheapest ones.? From which countryand which shop? And if know I need the web
addresses. Need your helps.
Regards,
AdrenalaN
A______N

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>    1. Re: BACKUP (Elmer Fuddpucker)
>    2. Getting all the admin email on my rag3 (Richard Kurth)
>    3. Re: Verification Request! (flash22@xxxxxxx)
>    4. RE: installing java runtime 1.3 to raq4 (Clayton Winter)
>    5. FW: [cobalt-users] CGI email (Todd Kirk)
>    6. RAQ Security Challenge (Nick G)
>    7. klogd consuming a lot of cpu !!! (diburim hotmail)
>    8. Cobalt Blues.... (Nathan Eror)
>    9. Re: Cannot use "admin" as an Email alias?? (Kul)
>   10. Re[2]: [cobalt-users] webalizer on raq3 (Glen Scott)
>   11. Re: Pointing Domain to outside IP but keeping Mail... (shimi)
>   12. Re: PHP on raq4i (I'm new to php on linux  ) (Glen Scott)
>   13. Re: php 4.0.6 (Glen Scott)
>   14. Re: 554 MX list for virtual.com. points back to
>        ns1.my-raq.com (shimi)
>   15. Re: MySQL Installation Question (Glen Scott)
>   16. Re: Email Forwarding with Copy (shimi)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 00:12:18 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Elmer Fuddpucker <elmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] BACKUP
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> On Wed, 16 May 2001, Gerald Waugh wrote:
>
> } I want to backup everything possible so that when I restore a server,
> } all the updates, rpms, php, MySQL, are ready to go.
>
> I can't help you with this as our approach is different
> than most. We run multiple servers, some of which are dedicated to
> specific purposes. For example, I've got two primary DNS servers on
> line as I write this. One is the real deal. The other is mirror
> which is fully configured and ready to go at a moments notice. We
> also do the same thing with our client's web sites. We simply set up
> accounts on two machines, mirroring the live server's content to the
> backup server. The result is that recovering from a hardware failure
> is as easy as changing a machine name and/or swapping out some IP
> addresses.
>
> } I would also be interested in using your method of keeping a backup
> } server ready to go!
>
> While we don't use Cobalt's for this purpose but the
> simplest way to explain how we do it is by saying we do...
>
> We add a client just like you do. Once the client is up and
> running we simply create a second account for them on another
> server. Then we use rsync to mirror the live account to the backup
> account every 6 hours (this is our "daily" backup). If the live
> server fails we simply change the IP addresses on the backup server
> and the client is back up and running in a matter of moments.
>
> The reality is that I buy factory refurbished servers whose
> day has come and gone. I stuff them with a couple of huge drives
> and load them with Slackware. Then, rather than waste them, we use
> the additional disk space for our regularly scheduled backups which
> are run on weekly and monthly basis.
>
> } Do you keep the backup server "updated" by rsync, or do you do that
> } manually?
>
> We run rsync from cron. We run monthly and weekly backups
> which are stored on the additional drive space mentioned above.
> These are separate from the backup of the live server. They also
> sometimes make us money. Every now and then a client will trash
> their site and few maintain their own backups. In those cases we
> restore the client's site for a fee. That may sound cruel but our
> backups are to cover our butts, not their's. It costs money to be
> able to maintain the backups and most clients understand that it is
> going to cost them money to have us restore their site for them
> before they call and ask us to do just that.
>
> } When you bring the backup on line, what do you do?
>
> In the case of a server failure, we simply rename the backup
> server and change the applicable IP addresses. We've scripted this
> so it's fast and very easy to do... and no, I'm not going to share
> the scripts. Not because I'm greedy, I wrote a very popular perl
> script (Virtual Yenta) a few years back. Within a few months a dozen
> or so perl 'gurus' were claiming the script as their own and it
> ended up in retail stores in the East and all I got out of it was a
> major headache so I quit distributing my scripts:
>
> serenity now...
> serenity now...
>
>
> brent sims
>
> Elmer Fuddpucker's WWW Directory
> http://www.fuddpucker.com/
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 23:30:38 -0700
> From: Richard Kurth <rkurth@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-userlist <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [cobalt-users] Getting all the admin email on my rag3
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Is there a way to get all my customers admin e-mail address on my Raq3
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>  Richard
> mailto:rkurth@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: flash22@xxxxxxx
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 02:18:17 -0400 (EDT)
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Verification Request!
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> On Sat, 12 May 2001, Stephanie Key wrote:
> > BLUE WATER GRAPHICS INC
> > Subscriber verification: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Good Afternoon!
> > Your Email address has been submitted for inclusion into our FREE Email
News Service. We provide special offers and information on productivity
hardware and software available through major US Retail stores and select
web sites.
>
> The really sad thing is 207.67.131.23 is listed in both MAPS and ORBS ...
>
> g
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "Clayton Winter" <clayton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] installing java runtime 1.3 to raq4
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:53:53 +1000
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> I don't know of a .pkg but try http://java.sun.com/j2se/
>
> Choose the SDK if you plan to develop Java apps on your cobalt.
>
> There is a tar ball of shell script that works on every linux flavour i
have
> seen.
>
> The RedHat RPM should install on cobalts which run a hacked RedHat distro.
>
> Regards
> --------------------------------------
> Clayton Winter: systems administrator
> webdata: internet design & development
> e: clayton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx p: 4054-1511
> --------------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2001 9:50 PM
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cobalt-users] installing java runtime 1.3 to raq4
>
>
>
> hello everyone
>
> I'm a newbie in cobalt raq4 and linux and I have to install
> the java runtime 1.3 to our server.
> but ... where can I find the .pkg, can I directly download
> to server, what is to do after that
> (is there a need to integrate to start-procedures).
> thanks in advance for your tips.
>
> Ernst J.Siegert / C & M communications
>
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "Todd Kirk" <tkirk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Cobalt-Users@List. Cobalt. Com" <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: FW: [cobalt-users] CGI email
> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 14:02:22 +1000
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I do not use or foresee the use of the 'env_report' feature in
formmail.cgi.
> My question is this, if I follow these instructions provided below, by the
> user 'Keith Davis' on this list, will my formmail.cgi be covered for
> currently known exploits?
>
> -------------------
> But, if having such an env_report available bothers you, fix it:
> change line 178 from
>   $Config{'env_report'} =~ s/(\s+|\n)?,(\s+|\n)?/,/g;
> to
>   $Config{'env_report'} = "";
> ------------------
>
>
> Support in these issues is greatly appreciated...
>
> Regards
>
> Todd Kirk
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> From: "Nick G" <vidra@xxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 15:46:20 -0700
> Subject: [cobalt-users] RAQ Security Challenge
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Just incase people want to know how secure RAQs are, we've setup an
un-used
> RAQ as a 'try to hack this' server (dn.net has refused to cancel the
server
> without heaps of notice)
>
> http://209.207.216.52/
> telnet user: guest pass: guest
>
> so, far we've had up to about 35 people online at once as guest (local
> access) and ive enabled almost every daemon in inetd.conf, and im very
> surprised how secure it is even with 30 people at once trying to hack it
> locally. almost all patches installed. no hacks so far.
>
> cheers,
> =====================================
> Nick G (LLB)
> Email: vidra@xxxxxxx
> Fone: +61 8 361 7586
> Internet Management & System Security
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Automating ftp
>
>
> > At 5/9/01 08:39 PM +0100, you wrote:
> > >Since a few weeks we have a cobalt raq 4 server and i know it's
possible
> to
> > >automate some tasks, but is it possible to create a script that
downloads
> a
> > >few files from an ftp server to the raq and then upload these files to
> > >another server? and if it's possible how do i do this?
> >
> > man rsync
> >
> > will give you the manual for rsync, which can do what you want and is a
> > very useful tool. If not, go to ftp.redhat.com and look for the 2.4.6-1
> > version of the RPM (probably rsync-2.4.6-1.i386.rpm) in the updates
> > directory for 6.2.
> >
> > I *think* this will work. No time to be more detailed, however.
> >
> > >I hope someone can help me
> >
> > God helps those who help themselves. If you can't find the RPM or can't
> > make sense of the thing, post again; then I'll go find you a link to go
> to.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rodolfo J. Paiz
> > rpaiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: "diburim hotmail" <diburim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:40:45 +0200
> Subject: [cobalt-users] klogd consuming a lot of cpu !!!
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> My server is raq4i
> Why ?
> What can I do
>
> top
>
> 1:07am up 3 days, 23:18, 1 user, load average: 1.89, 1.50, 1.34
> 128 processes: 125 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU states: 90.6% user, 9.3% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle
> Mem: 128040K av, 111204K used, 16836K free, 204864K shrd, 2712K buff
> Swap: 131532K av, 78444K used, 53088K free 29376K cached
>
> PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
> 305 root 15 0 384 24 16 R 0 87.5 0.0 392:35 klogd
> 3882 admin 6 0 924 924 680 R 0 2.7 0.7 0:02 top
> 23939 httpd 0 0 8780 2836 2016 S 0 0.1 2.2 0:03 httpd
> 1 root 0 0 120 68 52 S 0 0.0 0.0 0:19 init
> 2 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 3:04 kflushd
> 3 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 1:24 kupdate
> 4 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kpiod
> ...
>
> After reboot it goes away!
> Regards
> Dib Urim
>
>
> !@#
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "Nathan Eror" <nate@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:18:04 -0700
> Subject: [cobalt-users] Cobalt Blues....
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Fist off I would like to thank everyone that replied to my last message ,
> your help was much appertained.
> The only problem we seem to be having now , is when we add sites to one of
> our other raq-xtrs we get an error message that looks like this : Cannot
> create
> /usr/admserv/html/.cobalt/siteManage/site365  That happens with every site
> we try to add.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas ??
>
> Thank you,
> Nathan
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:25:00 +0100
> From: Kul <WebMaster@xxxxxxx>
> Organization: Qax
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Cannot use "admin" as an Email alias??
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Michael Tubbe wrote:
>
> > I found the same thing.  Has anyone been able to work around this issue?
> >
> > --------
> > Hi,
> >
> > On my RAQ3, I have a couple of sites that were using "admin" as an email
> > alias.   Recently, I upgraded to OS3, and then to OS4.   Shortly after
> > those
> > updates, some customers complained that they could not receive emails
> > anymore using their ADMIN email alias.  After investigation, I found out
> >
> > that all the admin@ emails were now catched by the RAQ and sent to the
> > ADMIN
> > system account!  ...  Why is that???   If at least this was mentioned in
> > the
> > features list, I could have warned my customers....
> >
> > <snip>
>
> Hi Micheal,
>
> There are a number of work arounds in the archives for this problem, like
editing the /etc/virtusertable  Although that worries me a little due to the
likelyhood of them being overwritten in a subsequent release :)   I wrote a
procmail scrpt to skip around both these problems that you may find of use
(see below)
> --
> Regards,
> Kul
> Kul's Free Scripts/Recipies: http://freebies.omega-isp.com/
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:38:40 +0100
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> From: Glen Scott <glen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] webalizer on raq3
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >Hello!!
> >
> >i have reinstalled everything:
> >freetype, gd, jpeg-6b, libpng, zlib, and webalizer
> >
> >everything installed nice and smooth. no problem at all. i was
> >following the instructions precisely.
> >
> >same problem...
> >
> >[root@kenny webalizer]# ./webalizer
> >./webalizer: error in loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot
> >open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> Edit /etc/ld.so.conf and make sure you have the path to your shared
> libraries listed in this file.  Then type /sbin/ldconfig to make the
> shared libraries available to Webalizer.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 02:04:51 -0700 (PDT)
> From: shimi <shimi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Pointing Domain to outside IP but keeping
Mail...
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > Is it possible to point the A record for a domain point to and have its
> > web pages served up via an external NT server but keep the mail(MX
> > Record) for that same virtual domain on the RAQ3, I have tried it but
> > the mail addressed to that domain gets rejected.....any suggestions!
> >
>
> You need to define the site on the *cobalt* ("Add new virtual site") -
> chcek the "accept mail for domain" button and create users that are
> actually mailboxes. basically the raq will serve that domain if anybody
> asks him, but nobody will because the DNS points to somewhere else.
>
> that works for me.
>
> HTH
>
> - shimi.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:42:56 +0100
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> From: Glen Scott <glen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] PHP on raq4i (I'm new to php on linux  )
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >Hi
> >
> >I'm trying to get a hit counter working with a simple php script
> >
> >The script needs an empty file "count.dat". Which I have created "touch
> >count.dat" .
> >
> >My problem is the file does not have permission to be written to.
> >I get error:-
> >
> >#######error in ie5 shows ################################
> >
> >Warning: fopen("./count.dat","w") - Permission denied in
> >/home/sites/home/web/ip_1.php on line 37
> >
> >##################
> >
> >What / whose permission does it need ?
> >
>
> The directory you are writing to will need write permissions set
> correctly.  See the www.php.net for more information about fopen.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:48:45 +0100
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> From: Glen Scott <glen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] php 4.0.6
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >posted this but it bounced .. repost .. apologies if you already have
this
> >...
> >----------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >Would anyone expect Cobalt to release a pkg to upgrade to php 4.0.6 which
> >should be out soon ??
> >
> >or is this more diffcult than that due to module includes etc in apache
???
> >
> >bit of a newbie ... so forgive the not so clear questions .. ;p
> >
>
> It is *very* unlikely that Cobalt will release a package for the new
> PHP.  The PHP on their "experimental" FTP site is over 2 years old!
>
> My advice:  grab the source tarball from php.net and compile it
> yourself.  Read the install instructions that come with it- it is
> very straight-forward.  If you get stuck, then search the archives-
> loads of users have sucessfully installed PHP on their RaQ machines.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 01:59:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: shimi <shimi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] 554 MX list for virtual.com. points back to
>  ns1.my-raq.com
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> On Fri, 11 May 2001, Tim M. Muldoon wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I set up a new virtual site on my server that is ns1 and ns2 and
transferred
> > the domain with NSI and I get this error when mail is sent internally
from a
> > form...
> >
> > The original message was received at Thu, 10 May 2001 08:33:24 -0400
> > from localhost [127.0.0.1]
> >
> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > <username@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > 554 MX list for greigfarm.com. points back to ns1.muldooninc.com
> > 554 <username@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>... Local configuration error
> >
> > Also any mail sent to the domain seems to disappear, I found this
>
> Did you check the "Accept Mail For Domain" box in the site's settings?
>
> - shimi.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:51:56 +0100
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> From: Glen Scott <glen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] MySQL Installation Question
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >Im running a cobalt raq4r.  i dont know anything about mysql and php.
> >However, one of my cleints has informed me that they will require mysql.
I
> >have read though many threads and it appears that many people have
managed
> >to install it without problems and then there are those that have had
> >problems.  I guess my main question is:  Is it worth it for me to pay the
> >$200 for Cobalt Professional Services to install mySQL for me?  Or am I
> >better off doing it myself or perhaps paying someone on the list to do it
> >for a smaller fee by using the packages at http://pkg.nl.cobalt.com/?
> >
> >Once installed, being that I have never used it before, is it something
> >fairly simple to pick up on with the correct documentation.  I have been
> >wanting to learn php along with mySQL for quite some time now.
> >
>
> If you are not confident about installing software, then the packages
> on http://pkg.nl.cobalt.com/ will be perfect for you.  You shouldn't
> have any problems installing the package at all.  $200 saved!
>
> -Glen
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 02:00:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: shimi <shimi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Email Forwarding with Copy
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >      Can someone tell me how to forward e-mail to another address,
leaving a
> >  copy in the originating mailbox in a Raq3 server ? Up till now I can
enable
> >  forwarding without leaving copies of the messages.
> >
> >  Thanks,
>
> In the user's home directory, create a filed called ".forward" (without
> the quotes, with the dot)
> and inside it write the email to forward to.
>
> HTH
>
> > Antonio
>
> - shimi
>
>
>
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