Re: [cobalt-users] Enough is enough...

[Jay Kraft <jkraft@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Right on Bill! Enough critcism is ENOUGH!@@@!!!

Tell this guy to stop complaining and go load BSD or Server7 and try to
configure it. Then he will see how easy a Cobalt really is. Or better yet,
go to school and learn how to manage a webserver.

Jay

At 09:51 PM 03/02/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>> You're certainly entitled to state your opinion and for the most part
>> you are correct. However your opinion is not the final word and as has
>been
>> pointed out several times always ignores the dump truck of manure that
>> Cobalt Marketing used to sell their Server Appliances to the public.
>> Cars are not good analogies. Cars are not appliances. A refridgerator is
>> an appliance. A toaster is an appliance. A Television is an appliance.
>> A Cobalt Raq is an appliance. The marketing bull continues to lead people
>> to believe that SAFELY operating a Cobalt Server Appliance is no different
>> or harder than making ice-cubes, making toast or watching TV
>
>Just thought I'd add my 2 cents.....
>
>I don't understand why people think that operating a web server is an easy
>task that can be accomplished through a control panel GUI just by 'clicking
>buttons'.  It isn't.  I don't know of a single web server on the market that
>is operable by a 'novice' that does not require some knowledge of the
>underlying operating system.  Believe me, I've looked.  Sure, I found some
>automated systems that were pretty damn good-- and expensive, but the bottom
>line is, when something breaks, or you want to upgrade the software or make
>additions, you must know the underlying OS.  Sun Cobalt Servers are not any
>different.
>
>When I first began investigating Cobalt back in 1999, I read their marketing
>reports, mailings, and talked to their reps.  Yes, they made claims that
>administering the RaQs is an easy task.  And, for the most part, it is.
>But, when things go wrong, it is good to know how to fix them.  If someone
>out there expected to buy or lease a server that would never crash, get
>hacked or need an upgrade, then they are quite naive.  If you are going to
>jump into the fire and begin administering a web server, then I suggest that
>you should not do this unless you have either 1. Knowledge of the underlying
>OS or 2. The time and desire to learn.  And, the bottom line is, nothing can
>save your butt in a sticky tech situation more than your own personal
>knowledge!  Don't expect someone else to save you.
>
>As for servicing their product, I think that Cobalt is about as good or
>better than anyone I've ever dealt with.  I don't believe they are perfect
>or even top of the line, but I also don't think they deserve the 'ragging'
>they get from people on this list who are hopelessly lost.  If you stop and
>think about it, who else gives FREE service for their server appliances
>after the sale?  There may be some company out there, but I've never come
>across them.  Time is money.
>
>Just my 2 cents.
>
>Bill M.
>
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