Re: [cobalt-users] Enough is enough...

[Eurowolf@xxxxxxx]

<< > Dan, that's the assumption I made, in that "The Cobalt server 
 > is sold as an
 > appliance for those that know or need to know nothing about Linux". >>


Jezus  jezus jezus

well we got 3 boxes hacked and even after restoring one from the CD  we got 
hacked into one..why because  the bind patch did not take...Can I blame 
Sun/Cobalt...sure...BUT i should have been smart enough to see that it did 
not take..and then called cobalt...

Anybody crying it is sold as an appliance ..your right BUT that does not mean 
you have to assume no responsibility.

I agree, am I fuming.....yeah ..did I waste time yeah...BUT hey ..we have a 
ton of servers   we use HP mainly and yes we ahve a few ( 8 now) 
cobalts...and as long as you use the cobalts for what they are designed for , 
they work great..... ONE thing we did learn..we were running dns on the 
machines, because the  way cobalt uses their naming and sendmail config.      
 after the hack we spend some mroe time investigating it..and we just not use 
the DNS on the cobalts, whe have the dns running on 2 HP's ( HP UX)  and they 
ONLY run dns.... so let the little buggers hack in..who care, let them even 
take one down...a new box is quickly online

and yes COBALT has allowed us to give options to people we could not provide 
with the HP's or the SCO's or the standard redhat linux boxes


This discussion wont stop for a long time... but hey I take my hat of for 
Cobalt, they have provided me with their support when I asked, no questions 
asked, they called even back afetr we decided to restore the machine, because 
they had another thing they wanted to check.   

The 2 things I learned is...i DO need to check the support pages a BIT more 
often...2  get yourself a cheap intel linux box...a 66 mhx 386 box will do 
the trick and use THAT as a DNS and hey let the kiddies have e field day....