Re: SV: [cobalt-users] Users not searching Archive First

[Jan Tietze <jptietze@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

You're so right - and it's so very gentle and shows a really respecting attitude
towards others to not invest ANY effort whatsoever BEFORE asking a question that
has been answered a million times before. Of course, the decision whether to
reply or not is left to knowledgeable (or, in the case of common DNS problems
lately - sometimes rather clueless) individuals, which is fine. What I object to
in your post is that me, John Cordeiro (the original poster of what you are
criticzing so strongly) and others really DO want to help others with their
problems - as opposed to what you suggest.  --  Isn't it true that an issue that
has been described and resolved a gazillion times before (on a mailing list that
DOES HAVE an archive) is one *without* a purely *technical* solution - people do
have to be reminded every once in a while that others' time is worth a dime, and
that it's disrespectful to ignore this. - This probably means some people have
to be reminded there is in fact an archive of this list every once in a while.

Jan


Christian Karlsson wrote:

> If you don't feel like helping people on the list, the DON'T and then GET
> OUT OF HERE! This list is for everyone who wants help with there server, if
> you feel like you are better then the rest of us that is up too you. I don't
> care!
>
> The whole point with this list is that users help users. If you don't want
> to help, then don't bother us anymore!
>
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> Skickat: den 23 februari 2001 21:31
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>
> I don't know how the rest of you guys feel but its getting very obvious that
> people are not searching the list archive before posting  to the list. I are
> not here to save peoples asses who can't perform basic server admin. I am
> here to help users with server specific problems which most have been
> covered extensively on this list.
>
> Actually 99% of the trouble I've had with my RAQ's have been covered in the
> list archive and were not hard to find. I only needed clarifications on the
> solution.
>
> I am starting to feel like I am the only one (a few others) who actually
> search the archive and post an re to the topic and not just shoot out a
> basic config question because they don't want to pay for support. I suggest
> we start SCREAMING at these people for blatantly disregarding the list
> readme. AND STOP HELPING them do there day to day jobs via this list. I have
> been stuck in UNIX and apache books for 2 years now why should we give info
> like that away because others are to lazy or unresourcefull.
>
> I didn't know I subscribe to a I never admined a server before in my life
> and have no etiquette list.