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Re: [cobalt-users] RAQ-NT??? Bad Business Decision

Looking at the position given, I am definetly happy that the
Gates-emporium never turned heads to Cobalt. Having a Raq running NT
would be really offensive.

I personally think that it is a good idea to ask SUN to support both
OS's, the main problem comes when you listen to an idiotic VP from Sun
saying they do not have the "power" to manage two OS's.

And I think that is the main concern, not only to mantain a selected
platform such as Linux, but to defend the right we have as current users
to keep using a platform once Cobalt sold as a wonder.

I regret that VP's are allowed to say such stupid things (I know, what
else could a VP possibly do?), but they should try to think a little bit
more before opening the mouth.

Good propossal from Mark: I Do think they should offer a Linux and a
Solaris
raq, that would mean that people had a choice.

It is just a matter of making our beloved SUN VP understand this.

;)


Emilio

Mark Spieth wrote:
> 
> It could be worse people, Microsoft could have purchased cobalt and then we
> would see raq's running NT!
> 
> After being a Unix admin for almost 10 years now, and managing at least 40
> raqs currently, I can assure you that an ultra sparc running under Solaris
> can do more and is more stable than any cobalt raq. And most people who go
> beyond the gui interface should easily be able to pick up on the differences
> without allot of trouble. I Do think they should offer a Linux and a Solaris
> raq, that would mean that people had a choice. If you want to make a
> statement to SUN make that one, not just that "If you put Solaris on a raq I
> am not going to buy anymore" That statement reminds me of my 5 year old
> throwing a temper tantrum. But a push for a dual platform raq would satisfy
> everyone and allow sun to help cobalt with their less than perfect track
> record of poor hardware (I have probably received 3 or 4 DOA raqs, and at
> least 4 more that had to be sent back) and even poorer technical support.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Mark Spieth
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Fathom Interactive Services
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebSite Creations [mailto:main@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 4:36 AM
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cobalt-users] Sun Solaris??? Bad Business Decision
> 
> I will say only this.
> 
>  I am a Linux man.
> 
>  If Sun puts Solaris on the RaQs, they can kiss my... er,  I mean, I will
> not purchase any more RaQs.
> 
> Plain and simple.
> 
> Good night.
> 
> Bill Micke
> Administrator for 10 RaQ3 and RaQ4 server appliances.
> 
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> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of WebSite
> >>>Creations
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:02 AM
> >>>To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] PHP4 RPM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>Does Cobalt have an install for the latest version of PHP4 on a Raq3??
> >>>
> >>>Hi Randall,
> >>>
> >>>I found RPM s for PHP 4 at the following LINK.  I successfully
> >>>installed PHP
> >>>4 on my RaQ3i using these RPMs.
> >>>
> >>>I recommend them to anyone who needs PHP 4 on a RaQ3i.
> >>>http://fsr.ku.dk/people/troels/rpms/php/install-ready/i586/
> >>>
> >>>I also wrote some instructions based on my recent install on a RaQ3i.
> >>>(Below)
> >>>
> >>>Bill Micke
> >>>
> >>>---------------------------------------
> >>>         INSTRUCTIONS
> >>>---------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>--------- PHP 4.0.2 INSTALL --------
> >>>
> >>>NOTE: Cobalt has a MySQL .pkg file at http://pkg.nl.cobalt.com/
> >>>
> >>>IF YOU INSTALL BOTH MYSQL AND PHP 4, INSTALL MYSQL FIRST!!!!
> >>>DON'T ASK ME WHY, BUT EVERYBODY TELLS ME THAT :-)
> >>>
> >>>The following instructions are for installling PHP 4.0.2 on the
> >>>Cobalt RaQ3.
> >>>
> >>>NOTE:  FOLLOWING THESE INSTRUCTIONS MAY VOID YOUR WARRANTY WITH COBALT
> >>>
> >>>These RPMS can be downloaded for free at
> >>>http://fsr.ku.dk/people/troels/rpms/php/install-ready/i586/
> >>>
> >>>VERY IMPORTANT
> >>>The following .rpm files will need to be installed on the server
> >>>before you
> >>>can successfully install PHP 4.  If you do not install these files first,
> >>>you
> >>>will get an error that says;
> >>>"error: failed dependencies: php-engine = 4.0.2 is needed by
> >>>php-imap-4.0.2-4."
> >>>
> >>>This can be corrected by updating the Cobalt Linux RPM files located
> >>>at
> >>>http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/redhat/redhat-6.2/i38
> >>>6/RedHat/RP
> >>>MS/
> >>>
> >>>DOWNLOAD THE FOLLOWING FILES FROM THE LINK ABOVE
> >>>1. bzip2-0.9.5d-2.i386.rpm  <Updates a file necessary to install the rpm
> >>>below>
> >>>2. popt-1.5-0.48.i386.rpm
> >>>3. rpm-3.0.4-0.48.i386.rpm   <Updates the RPM so that the filed
> >>>dependacies
> >>>message goes away>
> >>>
> >>>ROOT TO SERVER, CREATE A TEMP DIRECTORY... CALL THE TEMP
> >>>DIRECTORY WHATEVER
> >>>YOU WISH
> >>>
> >>>UPLOAD THE 3 FILES ABOVE TO THE SERVER TO YOUR TEMP DIRECTORY
> >>>
> >>>NOW, OPEN THE FILES
> >>>[su]# rpm -Uvh nameofFILE.rpm  (3 FILE NAMES ABOVE)
> >>>
> >>>LIKE THIS.....
> >>>rpm -Uvh bzip2-0.9.5d-2.i386.rpm
> >>>rpm -Uvh popt-1.5-0.48.i386.rpm
> >>>rpm -Uvh rpm-3.0.4-0.48.i386.rpm
> >>>
> >>>NOW DOWNLOAD THE PHP FILES FROM
> >>>http://fsr.ku.dk/people/troels/rpms/php/install-ready/i586/
> >>>
> >>>php-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm    (main PHP engine)
> >>>php-mysql-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm
> >>>php-devel-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm
> >>>php-imap-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm
> >>>php-gd-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm  (note, requires gd-1.3-6.i386.rpm)
> >>>gd-1.3-6.i386.rpm
> >>>php-misc-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm
> >>>php-pgsql-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm    (requires Postreg SQL 7 to be installed)
> >>>
> >>>NOW, UPLOAD THEM TO YOUR SERVER TO THE TEMP DIRECTORY
> >>>
> >>>OPEN THE RPM FILES
> >>>
> >>>rpm -Uvh php-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm    (main PHP engine)
> >>>rpm -Uvh php-mysql-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm
> >>>rpm -Uvh php-devel-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm
> >>>rpm -Uvh php-imap-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm
> >>>rpm -Uvh php-gd-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm  (note, requires gd-1.3-6.i386.rpm)
> >>>rpm -Uvh gd-1.3-6.i386.rpm
> >>>rpm -Uvh php-misc-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm
> >>>rpm -Uvh php-pgsql-4.0.2-5.i586.rpm    (requires Postreg SQL 7 to be
> >>>installed)
> >>>
> >>>REMEMBER TO REBOOT YOUR SERVER
> >>>
> >>>You should not get any error messages.  If you do, go back and
> >>>review your
> >>>steps to make sure you have not made any errors.
> >>>
> >>>Again, this install worked fine for me.   I hope the same for you.
> >>>
> >>>Bill M.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Randall Clark
> >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:30 PM
> >>>>>>To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>Subject: [cobalt-users] PHP4 RPM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Does Cobalt have an install for the latest version of PHP4 on a Raq3??
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If so where can I get it?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Randall
> >>>>>>
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Emilio Saldana
Director General,
ADigital Mexico
http://adigital.com.mx/