RE: [cobalt-users] What would you do

["Jimmy Gross" <jimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Actually, RADSL comes in many speeds: (1Mx1M, 3Mx1M, 5Mx1M, 7Mx1M). We have
not seen any service degradations in the 8 months we have been up. Have not
had any problems at all with our line. Our 1Mx1M line cost only $175/month
and the 7Mx1M is only $375/month. We are looking at adding a second line in
a few months just for web hosting.

jimmy

-----Original Message-----
From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Robert G. Fisher
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 1:09 PM
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] What would you do


On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 11:52:46AM -0700, Jimmy Gross wrote:
> We host on a RADSL line (1M X 1M). Our ISP is very supportive and has

Umm, RADSL is typically 7Mb up by 1Mb down.  If you have lower line
quality you can see service degradations.

> > Also are there any issues with using a RAQ on a ADSl line that any one
has
> > seen?  Right now they are wanting me to use a Cisco ADLS modem with PAT.
> > I am trying to get them to allow me to install a better router with NAT
on
> it.

Using Cisco PAT/NAT isn't a bad idea.  I know several companies that use
it for mail servers...Including a fortune 500 company who is one of our
frame relay customers.

The real issue is the actual connection to you.

Now on to Jeff's comments.

> First reason:  adsl is SLOWER upstream than down.

This is important.  Your upstream is what matters if you're hosting
since the server 'uploads' what the user downloads to his PC..still,
if you actually do have a 1Mb upstream, that can still be comparable
to a T1's 1.5Mb upstream...

> Second reason: adsl usually doesn't come with static IP

This really depends on your provider.

> Third reason:  adsl usually comes with NO support foranything but
> Windows.

Jeff, I hate to say it -- but you haven't looked hard enough.  The
vast majority of DSL offerings are not PCI cards but are standalone
devices or unit cards to act as an ethernet-dsl bridge or to function
as a router.  And if you look at they are trying to get him to use
a cisco router with Pat...err, makes this mute.

> Fourth reason: many companies supplying adsl won't even install if your
> system is anything BUT Windows.

This is an issue for anyone who doesn't understand their routers --
and if he's looking for something 'better' than cisco...it makes  me
wonder as Cisco is pretty much the defacto standard for routing on
everything higher than a dsl which they came into the market rather
late while waiting on standards to settle.

> Fifth reason:  people supporting adsl usually have NO CLUE at all.

True enough, although I can't say the people I talk to supporting my
T1s tend to have a clue either...<grin>

> Sixth reason:  when adsl is down, it's absolutely LAST PRIORITY for
> bringing back up.

This is true -- ADSL connections tend to be low on a totem pole for
a lot of service providers as it is not generally viewed as business
hosting -- if you have that clear, that's one thing.

Umm...Seventh Reason:  Plenty of people on this list can offer you
nice co-location costs?  I know that both my company and Jeff offer
co-location :).

--
Robert G. Fisher		     NEOCOM Microspecialists Inc.
System Administrator/Programmer      (540) 666-9533 x 116


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