RE: [cobalt-users] Product inquiry

["Jimmy Gross" <jimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I started hosting with our Raq3i because we were paying alot for web
hosting, email hosting, etc.

With doing it ourselves we save approx $600 per month from when it was
oursourced. Currently we pay $175 for our 1Mx1M DSL line and thats it. We
make that plus more by hosting other sites.

We chose the Raq because it was suppose to be easy but there have been some
minor growing pains but they have been resolved with our IT manager's
experience and the help of many people on this list.

So if you know what you are doing you can save alot of money and do it
yourself.

Jimmy Gross

-----Original Message-----
From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Andrzyczak,
Joseph (J.)
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 9:25 PM
To: 'cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Product inquiry


I apologize for the poorly written request. Let me try again.


>Is the $540 what you pay for your dial-up/DSL/cable/ISDN internet
connection?  If not, what is it?  And do you mean "plus" instead of "minus"?

 Direct yearly costs of $1324 yr.... hosting costs (PLUS ISP costs of $540
residential cable access)

>You've established that you spend $1,324 a year on hosting.

Current actual DEALER cost for 8 sites $1164 a year. My own
business/personal account bring total to $1324 a year. Total sites hosted =
13(small profit margin. Purely a volume of clients game)

>Is that for the 15-25 sites plus your own that you describe above?

No. Currently I have 8 clients and would like to host about 15-25 MORE small
business/personal websites.  (I am a Reseller, but clients don't know that).

>I'm having a difficult time following what your current situation is....

Current situation is I am spending more than I feel is necessary to host my
own business accounts. If I did not utilize my Reseller account I would be
spending  over $400 per year in hosting charges for my own accounts. It is a
violation of my Reseller contract to run separate subwebs off that account
for anything other than Web Reselling. The Domain forwarding charges alone
run me $160a year. I would like for each account to have there own cgi bin
and control panel.  Bandwidth is not a high priority to most of my clients,
due to fact they are local business whom just want to be on the web because
"everyone else is" mentality.

>...what your future scenario is.

Buy having own RaQ, I would be able to retain full hosting costs to increase
profits, offer my cheap, er, cost efficient clientele, and other clients I
design sites for more control on bandwidth and disc space usage.

>>>....."Would having my own Cobalt RaQ2 be more cost effective than leasing
a RaQ?"

 The clients I host do not pull much bandwidth.  I host, design, register
domains, administer and maintain most of the sites for them.

>Why have you chosen a RaQ2 over a RaQ3?>

COST.

>Would the server you'd be leasing be a RaQ2 or a RaQ3?

Which ever would be most cost effective due to type of service I provide.

> I recommend posting more information about:
2. Level of traffic, mail usage, total users, CGI usage, database usage,
etc. you
expect for the sites you plan on hosting
3. Cost and other constraints
4. How you define "better".  i.e.: Overall cost, control, etc.

1. Your experience and skills
The only server dealings I have experience with was a Half-Life Game server
that I left going 24x7. A friend asked me to set it up for him due to my
outrageous system configuration (back then). I'm 30 but can still learn new
things and quite enjoy it. Due to Flash 4, and am learning ActionScript and
JavaScript. I currently register and administer domains through
BulkRegister.com

2. Level of traffic, mail usage, total users, CGI usage, database usage,
etc. you expect for the sites you plan on hosting

Traffic levels are low due to type of sites hosted. Only a few get over 200
hits per month, and then those pages are optimized for extremely quick load
times.

Only CGI will be forms, image upload script and a Perl shopping cart.

None of my clients use databases yet that I host. I have no experience in
that. Been lucky.

3. Cost and other constraints
Cost is a major factor. That is why I chose the RaQ2. Under $1000. I figure
I will save that in one year with just my current clients. I do expect more
small personal and business accounts within the next 3 months.

4. How you define "better".  i.e.: Overall cost, control, etc.
The user interface is wonderful on the Cobalt. Maybe that's bad. Deceivingly
simple looking interface. Product cost is within my reach.

By "better" I meant more for a person just entering into the server side
world. As I said, advertisements make product look easier that they are to
actually use.



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