RE: [cobalt-users] CATALOG.COM

[Brent Sims <brent@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, 26 May 2000, Dan Kriwitsky so wrote:

} Why do these sites that want you to co-locate and talk about their
} facilities make it so hard to find out where they're physically located?

	One work, hype.

	My guess is that well over 50% of those offering colo
facilites are reselling the services. I know of one entreprenuer
offering colo space who is one reselling for another reseller... The
point is that most of the facilities don't actually exist as they
are presented in that the person pitching them has probably never
seen the facility and may not even be a client of the facility.

	Take Catalog.com, for example, which I'm picking on for no
other reason that it's the domain name in the header. A traceroute
from here produces the following results:

 1  yenta.webokay.com (209.94.85.161)  1.156 ms  1.132 ms  1.111 ms
 2  209.94.73.254 (209.94.73.254)  15.026 ms  14.938 ms  16.387 ms
 3  cos-pueblo.amigo.net (209.94.67.14)  16.52 ms  17.051 ms  17.761 ms
 4  206.222.112.93 (206.222.112.93)  17.314 ms  19.442 ms  41.641 ms
 5  e1-lasv-ad-12-0.acsi.net (206.222.97.4)  35.822 ms  37.08 ms  35.672 ms
 6  e1c-san-ad-12-0.espire.net (206.222.97.9)  59.674 ms  52.508 ms  69.151 ms
 7  f6.peer1.sjc1.genuity.net (198.32.136.56)  65.009 ms  60.742 ms  52.077 ms
 8  fa11-0-0.sjccolo-border1.bbnplanet.net (207.240.1.147)  83.696 ms  84.752 ms  56.033 ms
 9  catalog.com (207.240.40.4)  52.933 ms  53.726 ms  57.08 ms
	
	This is pretty darn good. They're (catalog.com) very well
connected and on some very fast pipes. A class act if I've
ever seen one. However, they (catalog.com) quite obviously don't own
the facility where their server is located. The border router
identifies itself as owned by bbnplanet.net - which more than likely
means that Catalog.com is, at best, leasing a cage at a GTE owned
facility.

	There is certainly nothing wrong with that, but it does not
make it kind of difficult for them to take you on a tour of the
facility. If they did, then you'd be able to figure out how to do
what they do :-)

	Peace be with you,
	
	Brent
	
	Brent Sims
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