RE: [cobalt-users] Mexican ISP + RaQ3 = Aye Caramba!

["Jimmy Gross" <jimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think Mike has gotten the point at this point in his life (after numerous
postings). Please check the dictionary for the meaning of "brief." Although,
this is considerably shorter than your original posting I dont think it
could be considered brief.

Jimmy Gross

-----Original Message-----
From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rodolfo Paiz
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 3:25 PM
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Mexican ISP + RaQ3 = Aye Caramba!


Everybody,

I've received quite a few responses to my longer, less congenial posting of
Sunday dawn. I want to add a brief comment in response to those:

Mike did greatly anger me with his comment. Keep in mind that, over the
years, I've been asked whether we live in trees (not in jest, and several
times), and even if I've ever seen peanut butter! The level of parochialism
and ignorance of "the Outside" that can be found in the States is truly
appalling. I do not, in any way, place Mike anywhere *near* those people...
it's just that I've gotten a little sensitive about the issue over time.

So, to those who say I went too far and sounded pompous, self-righteous, and
full of nationalistic bullshit, I sincerely apologize. I was very upset, it
was very late, and such was not my intention.

I meant, as some of you noticed, to "constructively criticize" Mike in such
a way that other people would also stop and think about something that is
normally taken as a given. I wanted to put forth a different point of view,
as did Jan's last post about Cisco, Siemens, and other companies. My point
was that this entire world is far more diversified and equal than is
sometimes seen. Thanks to those who understood I meant well rather than ill;
it is those open minds that will help the US to remain the world power it is
now.

------
Rodolfo J. Paiz
rpaiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rpaiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> PyschoCotic@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 5:34 PM
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Mexican ISP + RaQ3 = Aye Caramba!
>
>
> Well Rodolfo,
>
> I must say well put...  I'm from the US and yes we do
> sometimes stick our
> heads in the air and think we are the most technologically
> advanced, most
> fortunate to be born here etc...  Heck the news promotes that
> idea everyday
> by reporting on the misfortunes of other countries.
>
> Thanks for opening my mind or waking me up... I hope some
> other people got
> the same from your comments and i'm sorry if I have ever
> given the same
> notion in the mailing list or anywhere else.
>
> However, I don't think mike ment his comment to be
> insulting...  I think he
> innocently made a comment, stated his idea...  Hopefully he
> got the same from
> your message as I got.
>
> ~Randy
>
> In a message dated 5/14/00 4:29:19 AM Central Daylight Time,
> rpaiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> > There is one thing, however, that sadly I do see in the
> States about 10x
> >  more than I see it anywhere else: the idea that "we are
> ahead, we are the
> >  best, and pity the rest of the poor bastards who didn't
> have the luck to be
> >  born in America [theoretically the States] where we rule,
> now and forever."
> >  This attitude, Mike, does not well endear you to the substantial
> >  international following on this list (most of whom, thank
> God, are vastly
> >  more knowledgeable than I), nor does it endear you to any
> citizen of any
> >  other part of the world whom you may encounter.
>
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