[cobalt-users] Re: More Comments on the Lists

[Bruce Timberlake <bruce@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> I think the community is really looking for Bruce to steer this movement.

Thanks for the vote of support... it does mean a lot to have everyone looking 
to me... I'm sure I don't have all the answers though; and this being a 
community we need to hear everyone's input, and allow everyone who can help 
in any way to do so. No one of us can do everything, and I don't think it 
should be like that anyway. Too many opportunities for continued resentment 
for whatever reason...

> His email I think was the most non-biased, non-motivated and quickest
> answer to the coming dilemma we are all facing. Are you not reading his
> messages? Why are we on this immediate swing to relocate and start new
> lists, when for that matter Ryan already has in place 3 lists awaiting
> community approval and use, and instead follow his idea of all converging
> at cobaltfacts, which has been up for well over a year, online and with
> hardly any downtime, and get everyone talking there and not rush into
> anything this quick. I am starting to also question why you are so intent
> on this.

The lists Ryan has set up will contain the old cobalt-* content, appropriately 
munged to fit the new domain. As far as people are concerned, the list will 
be the same. They will just have to address emails to cobalt-*@list.qbalt.com 
instead of to cobalt-*@list.cobalt.com.

Jeff's taking the lead on getting the import/migration/whatever work done as 
he says he has the experience/knowledge and "free time" to do it. I certainly 
don't have the experience/knowledge at migrating mailing lists; sure, I could 
probably figure it out, but it would take too long and honestly, why should I 
bother if he can do it and is willing?  Frankly I'm glad he's offering  
assistance as a service to the Cobalt community at large. And if he can't do 
it, for whatever reason, it will be in front of all of you. (No pressure now, 
Jeff, right? :)

I directed people to cobaltfacts as a known quantity. People who want to find 
out what's up with the community now or in the future can check there. If 
they then choose to stay only on cobaltfacts, fine. If they want to join and 
post on separate -users, -developers, -security, -announce, -whatever lists 
like they've been doing on the cobalt.com domain, they have that option as 
well now, with the lists Ryan set up.

So we've got a home now for all the cobalt-* list contents, in the same format 
they were in before.  All everyone has to do is go to list.qbalt.com and make 
sure you're signed up for the "new" cobalt-* list(s) of your choice and start 
posting to them today. Why wait for the 15th? :)

The other non-list-preservation discussions can all be handled on cobaltfacts. 
Or maybe even on a new cobalt-discuss (cobalt-bitch?) list @qbalt.com...