AW: [cobalt-users] Status of the Cobalt Mailing Lists

["Florian Arzberger" <arzberger@xxxxxxxxxx>]

well, at least that's a word, although i don't like the sound of it ;). i've
been on the this list for only a few weeks, but i guess if it's closed most
users would want to subscribe to
http://list.cobaltfacts.com/mailman/listinfo/cobaltfacts/ instead if they
haven't already.

personally i find a mailing list quicker and easier to use and follow than a
web-based forum.

by the way, does anyone have a clue whether the cobalt brand itself will
completely die now? or has sun plans for selling it or anything?

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Von: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Mai 2004 22:12
An: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [cobalt-users] Status of the Cobalt Mailing Lists

Because the unplanned outage of the Cobalt lists this weekend seems to have
caused another flurry of "what now?" emails, I guess it is time to address
this issue for good.

I think that it is time for these lists to go away.  Several reasons for
this:

1) RaQ 550, the last Sun Cobalt branded product, reached its End of Life in
February 2004.  Sun has committed to certain support guidelines as part of
our EOSL policy, including maintaining the knowledgebase and Support Forums
located at http://cobalt-forum.sun.com/forum/ for three full years.

2) I have had an ongoing problem with users of the lists demanding that I
delete or modify their posts in the list archives.  I have been unable to
come up with an answer to those requests that satisfies the users, me, and
the maintainers of Sun's Privacy Policy.

3) The system on which the lists are hosted is not getting any younger, and
as many of you noticed this weekend is not very reliable.  It is probably
not going to be replaced -- see item #1 above.  Virus and spam traffic into
the server is also out of control and it would require significant effort to
put decent filtering in place and then maintain the filters indefinitely.

My plan is to shut the cobalt-users, cobalt-security, and cobalt-developers
lists down on Friday, May 14.

I am open to suggestions about other ways Sun can continue to support the
Cobalt user community.  One option already mentioned has been a Sun Cobalt
area on the BigAdmin systems administration portal located at
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/.  Mailing lists, unfortunately, are not a
feature of BigAdmin, but I would like to hear the user community's feedback
on the portal and will be glad to follow up with that team if there is an
interest.

Please feel free to send me any comments or questions.  Thanks...

--
...Craig

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