Re: [cobalt-users] [RAQ3] List server questions

[Dennis <dkc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jeff-

Do you have the post handy where you detail the "gotchas" of installing
another MajorDomo installation and also the copy of MajorCool?

    -Dennis

Jeff Lasman wrote:

> the webthing wrote:
>
> > Go on, groan.  I would.  It's another damn newbie with loads of
> > questions that are probably covered in the archives.
>
> I cheated, I read your whole post before answering, so I know where
> you're going <smile>.  Yes, you can probably find everything in the
> archives, but in such a hard-to-understand mixture of posts and replies
> and more posts and replies, that I'm happy to answer ...
>
> (And maybe even get a little business <smile>.)
>
> > Well, let me start from the beginning.  (If you don't want to read the
> > whole, sorry tale of how I wound up here, skip on down to
> > THE QUESTIONS.)
> >
> > Three months ago I approached DialtoneInternet about a dedicated server.
> > I got lumbered with some idiot who decided that telling me to go
> > elsewhere was a lot easier than working out how I was to get a signed
> > form to her without a fax machine.  (Hey, I'm from England.  I'd never
> > heard of Kinko's.)
>
> Though we're in the U.S. we deal with England every day.  We even
> telephone England with no problem.  We're the western hemisphere
> distributor of a Windows-based mailserver from the UK, so we're very
> happy to deal with the UK <smile>.
>
> ...<balance of problems skipped>...
>
> > THE QUESTIONS
>
> > 1) Is it fully featured majordomo?
>
> It is standard majordomo.  Not crippled in any way.  But it's carefully
> tied into their web-based interface, which as you've found out, cripples
> it something awful.  I got a slightly different response from Cobalt
> Tech Support.  They told me that they only supported it for the
> functionalities available through the web-based interface.
>
> Not wanting to break the web-based interface, I installed another copy
> of majordomo in a different directory.  I documented all the
> installation "gotchas".
>
> > 2) Is there another front end for majordomo that's been tried on a RAQ,
> > since the server holding MajorCool has been unavailable for two months?
>
> Do you want a copy of MajorCool?  Just ask <smile>.
>
> > 3) If not, is majordomo easy to learn?  I've only used it with MC.
>
> It's got a lot of gotchas, and the support group at
> <majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> is often a lot less than friendly.  (The
> list runs on majordomo, so now you know how to subscribe if you wish to
> do so.  You'll often find me on it as well.)
>
> > 4) Does anyone have any experience with webmin on a RAQ?  This has a
> > passable front end for majordomo, although it's no MajorCool.
>
> Sorry, no experience.  I'd be afraid to use webmin if I were using the
> RaQ's web-based gui interface, they use completely different management
> paradigms.
>
> >  It also
> > has a few other useful bits, like a file manager.  I've not been able to
> > find a file manager on the RAQ.
>
> I seem to remember a product called "Midnight Commander" or something
> similar that should go easily onto a RaQ3 from the Red Hat RPM, if I'm
> not mistaken.  On the 2?  I don't have a clue; you'd have to compile it
> from source.
>
> > This question was asked a while back; I never found the answer:
> > 5) What are the pros and cons of mailman over majordomo?  Apart from the
> > front end, which is a good point, but I do want a good server and not
> > just a good interface.
>
> Not sure; I've never used mailman; Majordomo has done the job for me and
> for my customers.
>
> > Answers to even one or two of the above questions might help me to
> > decide whether I can use a RAQ.  I do like it, it seems to have
> > everything I require.  Or it will have, once I get Python on it.  And
> > PHP if it's not already.  And a list server.  Let's not forget the list
> > server.
>
> We're in the list-serving business.  I've got lists running on generic
> linux and unix systems.  I've also got it running on my RaQ2 from my own
> separate installation.
>
> I also support RaQs, as a consultant.  I also colocate RaQs, in several
> different colocation points around the U.S.  I also rent out RaQs.
>
> I also help out as much as I can on this list, as time permits.
>
> I can put a working majordomo on your RaQ.  I can install majorcool for
> you.
>
> Contact me offlist.  If you give me your phone number and the best time
> to call (your local time), I'll be happy to call you and discuss this
> with you.
>
> (Ask onlist for recommendations and especially as to whether or not I do
> what I'm doing.
>
> > Trust me, I'm a doctor
>
> After almost a year of complaining at the clinic I go to, I've finally
> gotten a doctor I can trust.  A resident actually. Unfortunately he's
> finishing up his residency in June.
>
> Nobaloney.net.
>
> Our name says it <smile>.
>
> Jeff
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