Re: [cobalt-developers] [CQ3-OSS] The Sun BSD License

["pete feeney" <pete@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

i think it was the financial people who decided that laywers and programmers
could be measured by the amount of lines on the page...
:)
may be that's why microsoft code in never optimised?
:)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders" <andersb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:51 PM
Subject: [cobalt-developers] [CQ3-OSS] The Sun BSD License


> I am not a lawyer, just another hacker...
> (this legalese all look the same to me)
>
> Maybe someone who is (or plays one on TV),
> can explain to me the difference between:
>
> * The "Sun BSD License": (as used by Cobalt Qube3 OSS)
> http://developer.java.sun.com/berkeley_license.html
>
> > This software is provided "AS IS," without a warranty of any kind. ALL
EXPRESS
> > OR IMPLIED CONDITIONS, REPRESENTATIONS AND WARRANTIES, INCLUDING ANY
IMPLIED
> > WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE OR
> > NON-INFRINGEMENT, ARE HEREBY EXCLUDED. SUN MIDROSYSTEMS, INC. ("SUN")
AND ITS
> > LICENSORS SHALL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES SUFFERED BY LICENSEE AS A
RESULT
> > OF USING, MODIFYING OR DISTRIBUTING THIS SOFTWARE OR ITS DERIVATIVES. IN
NO
> > EVENT WILL SUN OR ITS LICENSORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY LOST REVENUE, PROFIT
OR
> > DATA, OR FOR DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, INCIDENTAL OR
PUNITIVE
> > DAMAGES, HOWEVER CAUSED AND REGARDLESS OF THE THEORY OF LIABILITY,
ARISING OUT
> > OF THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF SUN HAS BEEN
ADVISED
> > OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
> >
> > You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or intended
for
> > use in the design, construction, operation or maintenance of any nuclear
> > facility.
>
> * And the original "BSD License": (revised, actually)
> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.html
>
> > THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS "AS
IS"
> > AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
THE
> > IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
PURPOSE ARE
> > DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT OWNER OR CONTRIBUTORS BE
LIABLE
> > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR
CONSEQUENTIAL
> > DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS
OR
> > SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION)
HOWEVER
> > CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT
LIABILITY,
> > OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF
THE USE
> > OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
>
> I think I get the part about the nuclear facilities.
>
> But what is the reason for the other differences ?
> Just the way that Sun Legal likes to play the game ?
>
> --anders
>
> PS. Sigh, I remember when this was all about writing code and
>     not software patents or licenses and disclaimers or such...
>
>
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