RE: [cobalt-developers] FrontPage 2002 Extensions

["Your Own ISP" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks a ton for the info..

Thanks,

Todd Routhier
Lightwave Technologies LLC.
(888) 230-5333

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-----Original Message-----
From: cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Matthew
Nuzum
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 1:20 PM
To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cobalt-developers] FrontPage 2002 Extensions


On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 22:18, Your Own ISP wrote:
    I hate to ask this because I know the answer must exist somewhere. I
have
    spent about an hour searching the archives of this list, the Sun site
and
    the newsgroups. No joy..

    I have customers that really want the FrontPage 2002 extensions. So far
I
    can't find a pkg or really much info at all about how to get the newer
    extensions installed on our Raq 4.

    Any info would be appreciated.

    Thanks a ton and Happy Thanksgiving to all that celebrate it.

    Todd

Todd, to the best of my knowledge, there isn't and won't be a PKG file
for this.  I have done the installation manually, but it's a pain in the
butt, and once installed prevents you from installing any new Apache
related security packages from Sun (don't laugh ;-).

So, if you want to endeavor into this realm yourself, what you can do is
this:
Get a spare computer running RedHat 6.2 for testing purposes.  You'll
want to do the installation once for practice here to get a feel for how
it goes.
Go to the following sites and read all about how to do the installation:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnservext/h
tml/fpse02unix.asp
http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport/download.htm
http://www.joshie.com/projects/apache-frontpage/

Download the apache source that matches the version of the frontpage
patch you use.  The patch can be download at the second link above
(rtr.com)

Download the supplimental source files you need, PHP (and etc),
mod_perl, openssl, mod_ssl, mod_auth_pam (search the list archives for a
link to that one).  The only thing that you won't be able to do on your
RedHat 6.2 test server is install the ASP software.  That's OK, it's
very easy.

Here's the order that I would do things, from what I found to be the
easiest to the hardest...
apache with all necessary extensions (when running ./configure, use the
--with-layout=redhat option)
php (do it as an apache module, aka the "apxs" technique) start with
instructions at www.php.net. If you have trouble getting your desired
php extensions to install, remember that when you're installing
libraries for software using RPM, you'll often have to install the
packageXYZ-vers.i386.rpm and the packageXYZ-devel-vers.i386.rpm.
frontpage 2002
mod_ssl/openssl
mod_perl
mod_auth_pam (harder to find, not necessarily hard to install)
chillisoft ASP (not hard to install, but can't be done on test server)

Once you get those working on a test server, then install them on a real
server using similar techniques.  Before you begin, back up the entire
server, then also backup the /etc/httpd, /usr/lib/apache, /usr/lib/php*
folders.  One note, I never do the make install to install the
software.  Sometimes I'll do a make install as a normal user just to see
what the install procedure does, but I always install manually after I
backup the files that will be replaced.

Once a successful installation has been performed, you cannot use the
cobalt GUI to turn on frontpage extensions.  You can use the included
microsoft GUI or you can use the command line, which isn't hard.

If you are a very confident server admin comfortable with the Linux
command prompt and patching and installing software source manually, you
may want to consider doing this. If you are not comfortable doing the
above, you should make sure you get confident by doing the install on a
test server several times first.

One side note, sometimes the OS restore cd's from one cobalt server work
on another... If there is a newer software version that will succesfully
restore the cobalt raq4 and has the fp2002 extensions, you may prefer
that technique.

If you decide to venture into this project, post questions to the dev
list and if it's something I can help with, I'd be happy to help.  I had
hopes at one time of documenting the procedure and possibly producing a
package, but my current work load makes that very unlikely.  If someone
wants to, they could probably use the SRPMS at the joshie link above as
a good foundation.

Hope this helps,
Matthew Nuzum


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