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[cobalt-developers] Re: cobalt-developers digest, Vol 1 #317 - 8 msgs

Hi,

I have a Raq3i server for sale. 13.g drive. Memory 288MB (32 original + 256
added) Used for last 1 year. Updated with all patches and upgrades from
Cobalt. Have installed Embperl and some other packages.

Best possible price.

Please email me at vknrvk@xxxxxxxxx

Thanks

Vijay
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>   1. RE: Port 81 (Michael Aronoff)
>   2. RE: Port 81 (Jon D. Grant)
>   3. RE: Samba (Jim Thomas)
>   4. Re: nice knowing you all! (Arthur Corliss)
>   5. what's wrong with this .htaccess?? (Ekrem Soylu - design-Tr Bilisim
Teknolojileri)
>   6. Re: nice knowing you all! (Arthur Corliss)
>   7. cname? (Mark Baker - Cobalt Lists)
>   8. cube2 disk space monitor (any one) some reply be nice. (Barry
Titmarsh)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Michael Aronoff" <ma@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-developers] Port 81
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:15:20 -0700
> Reply-To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Yea, the easy way is to have the client remind his system admin that a
> System Admins job is to help their users, not be a burden.  Any decent
fire
> wall can be setup to allow port 81 only to the one IP address needed and
> this will not expose their network to any security risk.
>
> Michael Aronoff - CIIC
> ma@xxxxxxxx <mailto:ma@xxxxxxxx>
> Calabasas, CA
> 818-591-7825
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon D. Grant [mailto:jdgrant@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 10:45 AM
> To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cobalt-developers] Port 81
>
>
> I have a user who is behind a firewall where their System Administrator
will
> not open port 81 or any other port.
>
> Does anyone have work around that will allow them add or edit users any
> other way?
>
>
>
> Jon D. Grant
> Online Production Coordinator
> richmond.com
> jdgrant@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> (804) 358-0825 x364
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> From: "Jon D. Grant" <jdgrant@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-developers] Port 81
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:15:01 -0400
> Reply-To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Thanks, that is what I told them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Michael
> Aronoff
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 3:15 PM
> To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-developers] Port 81
>
>
> Yea, the easy way is to have the client remind his system admin that a
> System Admins job is to help their users, not be a burden.  Any decent
fire
> wall can be setup to allow port 81 only to the one IP address needed and
> this will not expose their network to any security risk.
>
> Michael Aronoff - CIIC
> ma@xxxxxxxx <mailto:ma@xxxxxxxx>
> Calabasas, CA
> 818-591-7825
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon D. Grant [mailto:jdgrant@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 10:45 AM
> To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cobalt-developers] Port 81
>
>
> I have a user who is behind a firewall where their System Administrator
will
> not open port 81 or any other port.
>
> Does anyone have work around that will allow them add or edit users any
> other way?
>
>
>
> Jon D. Grant
> Online Production Coordinator
> richmond.com
> jdgrant@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> (804) 358-0825 x364
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Reply-To: <jimt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> From: "Jim Thomas" <jimt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-developers] Samba
> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:44:38 -0400
> Reply-To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Jon,
> The only thing I can think of is that you have named the shares the same
as
> the user name.  Samba creates home directory shares for each user
> automatically.  If you name another share the same name as a user, I think
> the home directory share will override it.  Try naming the shares
something
> other than the user name.
>
> Cheers,
>   Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jon Grant
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:12 AM
> To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-developers] Samba
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim,
>
> Actually in the .conf file I changed the path to / and put two valid users
> admin , user1.
>
> When I try to connect to the share of user1 instead of being put at the
root
> of the box I am put at /home/sites/<site>/users/user1/  Then when I
connect
> to the share as admin I am put at /home/sites/home/user/admin/  when I
want
> to be put a / on both.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jim Thomas
> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:21 PM
> > To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [cobalt-developers] Samba
> >
> >
> > Jon,
> > I don't understand the question.  You said:
> >
> > > Though when I actually log into machine I am pushed to the user's root
> > > directory that I logged on as.  I would like to specify another
> > directory
> > > such as /home/sites/ .
> >
> > Connecting to the machine from windows does not entail logging in to the
> > server.  If you mean that when you connected to a share, it asked you to
> > enter a password, then it will place you in the directory defined for
the
> > share (defined in smb.conf).  If you mean you are logging into FTP (or
> > telnet, or SSH, etc.), you will start off in the directory for
> > the user you
> > logged in as.
> >
> > You can add as many shares to the share section of smb.conf, and set the
> > base directories wo wherever you like.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jon D.
> > Grant
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 5:24 PM
> > To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [cobalt-developers] Samba
> >
> >
> > Guys
> >
> > I have set up Samba following the following instructions posted
> > to the list:
> >
http://list.cobalt.com/pipermail/cobalt-developers/2000-April/000737.html
> >
> > Though when I actually log into machine I am pushed to the user's root
> > directory that I logged on as.  I would like to specify another
directory
> > such as /home/sites/ .
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Jon D. Grant
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:21:45 -0800
> From: Arthur Corliss <corliss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-developers] nice knowing you all!
> Reply-To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Dennis wrote:
>
> > You can build a 1U box with 2 ethernets with 650Mhz PIII processor and a
> > 15GB disk for about $800.  A RaQ3i is ~$2300. reseller price. Webmin is
at
> > least as good as the cobalt gui (and a lot faster), and its, yes, free.
>
> I haven't looked at Webmin in a long time (not to mention that the mere
> thought of doing administrative tasks through a web browser gives me the
> heebie jeebies), but when I did it was obvious that Webmin tried to be a
lot
> more feature complete than the Cobalt interface, and hence, much more
> complicated a beast than what the Cobalt units provide.  In my mind, if I
had
> to set a luser in front of one of them, I'd definitely choose the Cobalt.
>
> > So, my point is, that anyone buying this as just a box to run linux
> > probably isnt very technically capable, or just plain has his head in
the
> > sand.
>
> As is yours, since you're overlooking what Cobalt is selling (and no, as
much
> as they took advantage of the hype, it's not Linux):  ease of use, and
ease of
> deployment.  Something you pull out of a box and have running within five
> minutes.  *That's* something you will never have with any distro, let
alone
> trying to build the box.
>
> > which was exactly my original point, that the fact that it runs LINUX is
> > not important to most of the people who buy it . They (cobalt) would be
> > better off with a black box, because then they wouldnt have to deal with
> > the constant whining of the linux community to fix the multitude of bugs
> > that have little to do with the applications that make the boxes
attractive.
>
> The fact that it's running *something* will take paramount importance once
> they try to implement features beyond what the UI allows.  There's a hell
of
> a lot more available in easy to install form for Linux than for Solaris.
> Unless, of course, you expect the same non-technical lusers who need the
> easy interface to compile from source. . .
>
> --Arthur Corliss
>   Bolverk's Lair -- http://www.odinicfoundation.org/arthur/
>   "Live Free or Die, the Only Way to Live" -- NH State Motto
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> From: "Ekrem Soylu - design-Tr Bilisim Teknolojileri"
<ekrem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:18:02 +0300
> Subject: [cobalt-developers] what's wrong with this .htaccess??
> Reply-To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I downloaded and setup a cgi program that "account manager" which helps to
> manage .htpasswd file of a private folder like members on my RAQ3. It
worked
> and i could easily add users with it. Acc. Man. adds users to .htpasswd
and
> than i created .htaccess file for this private folder like this;
>
> AuthUserFile /home/sites/site16/.htpasswd # (I checked out .htpasswd file
> there and contains encoded passwords)
> AuthGroupFile /dev/null
> AuthType Basic
> AuthName "MyLittleMemberFolder"
>
> <LIMIT GET POST>
> require valid-user
> </LIMIT>
>
> Seems normal huh? But when i try to connect site via browser
> (http://www.domain.com/members) it shows user and password popup but does
> not accept passwords? Gives that error;
>
> Authorization Required
>
>  This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the
document
> you requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g. bad
> password), or your browser does not understand how to supply the
credentials
> required.  But .htpasswd file is correct and also .htaccess..
>
> What's wrong with them???
>
> Ekrem Soylu
> Engineer
>
> design-Tr IT
> www.design-tr.com
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:39:37 -0800
> From: Arthur Corliss <corliss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-developers] nice knowing you all!
> Reply-To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Dennis wrote:
>
> > Can you spell "B S D"?
> >
> > In counterpoint, they could have used another "free OS" without the
> > restrictive GPL license (BSD comes to mind) and built an application
driven
> > appliance rather than trying to generically support LINUX on their box.
> > Their boxes are nothing special (slow and expensive compared to a 1U PC
> > alternative), and they are consumed dealing with all of the pitfalls of
> > linux, keeping up with seemingly daily changes that have little to do
with
> > their product, and dealing with thousands of penguinites who demand
> > unending support for free...
>
> Ahh, here we go into license bigotry.  I use both, and both have their
> strengths, no doubt.  But what spurred this discussion on was two simple
facts
> that BSD doesn't address:
>
> --Linux was definitely a factor in the success of Cobalt.  Nice
>   loyalty showing to consider dumping them now
> --There are more packages ready to install for Linux than any
>   other OS, so if you want to let them tinker with the internals,
>   why make them compile from source?  And before you tell me some
>   crap like that isn't an issue, you need to explore the number of
>   neat little proggies that some nitwit developed solely on Linux
>   without an ounce of consideration for making it portable.  As a full
>   time IRIX user, I run into this all the time.  Those of us writing
>   portable code (and conscious of endian and register size issues) are
>   in the clear minority.
>
> Yes, FreeBSD has a Linux compatibility layer, and Solaris has one in
> development.  Do I have to tell you what I think of compatibility layers?
> Waste the hardware, go ahead, waste cycles remapping kernel calls.
>
> > Supporting Linux proper is a nightmare, and Im sure that a very small
> > percentage of sales are to people who care...mainwhile the small pct of
> > those that do are eating their lunch in support time.
>
> That's completely ludicrous.  As a company that has to support a wide
variety
> of Unices in businesses here, Linux is no more a support hardship than any
> other Unix.  In fact, with the tremendous amount of attention it gets, I'd
> wager that I find solutions quicker and easier than with any commercial
Unix.
>
> > Without the "hype", no commercial vendor would use linux, because its
not
> > as good as BSD (an opinion shared by most people with substantial
> > experience with both) and its license is not friendly to commercial
vendors.
>
> BSD is rock solid, there's no doubt.  But the simple market reality is
that
> Linux is getting the attention, and more development is being concentrated
on
> it.  Applications drive acceptance, and applications are what the users
want.
> In that view, moving away from Linux makes little sense.
>
> Your license quibble, BTW, is utter crap.  You can license any code that
runs
> on top of Linux any way you want.  As long as you're not linking against
GPL'd
> code (thought much LGPL code alleviates the problem), you're fine.  And
guess
> what, what application are most people using on the Cobalts?  Is it
Apache?
> Is that GPL?  I thought not.  Give it a rest.
>
> If, however, you *want* to take advantage of GPL'd code, then suck it up.
> You're using their tools, you have to comply with their licenses.  Ironic
that
> you're whining about it, thought, when even the BSD's use a great deal of
GNU
> cli tools.  What's that all about?  Hell, even Solaris and IRIX have GNU
> bundles ready to install off the installation disks.
>
> Your political leanings in the license arena is a herring, pure and
simple.
>
> --Arthur Corliss
>   Bolverk's Lair -- http://www.odinicfoundation.org/arthur/
>   "Live Free or Die, the Only Way to Live" -- NH State Motto
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Reply-To: "Mark Baker - Cobalt Lists" <cobalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> From: "Mark Baker - Cobalt Lists" <cobalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:16:34 +0100
> Subject: [cobalt-developers] cname?
> Reply-To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi,
>
> Just wondering what I'm doing wrong!
>
> I want to have name.subdomain.com point to domain.com (don't ask why!)
>
> It doesn't have an IP, so I used a cname to send name.subdomain.com to
> domain.com but it ends up on the ns.domain page!
>
> Any ideas why?
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Baker
> Dark Marketing Ltd
> http://www.yoursitehere.co.uk
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:41:26 +0100
> To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> From: Barry Titmarsh <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [cobalt-developers] cube2 disk space monitor (any one) some reply
be nice.
> Reply-To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for the place in the config that sets the threshold at which
> the status monitor for disk space triggers Yellow and later Red
>
> I have up-graded to the latest cobalt security patches etc. and now I see
> an constant yellow warning that my disk / dir is full.
>
> Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
> /dev/hda1             297508  239117    58391     80%   /
> /dev/hda3             198275    6515   191760      3%   /var
> /dev/hda4            3446834    9551  3437283      0%   /home
>
> Its annoying me.
>
> Can some one tell me the location of the config file so I can fix this
> threshold.
>
> Thanks Barry
>
>
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