Re: [cobalt-developers] Question to all Developers

["Chief Executive Officer" <ceo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with Byron (below).  There is also other boxes offered by Cobalt
that run Linux/Apache configurations.  The Linux/Apache server combo is
listed in several independent benchmark studies as having the least down
time of any servers in the market and the longest times running between
reboots.  If one is a novice they will find the book - "Linux For Dummies" -
provides a lot of information that coincides with information Cobalt has
concerning their Linux boxes, but may break down the vocabulary easier for a
beginner.  One of the nicer features of Cobalt boxes is that they provide a
graphical user interface that novices will appreciate.  Some of the pros
here will prefer skipping the GUI and opting for telneting the shell for
their purposes.  The bottom line is that this mail list is for open source
programmers - these are the fellows that push the technology of the web to
its limits and are the reason computers and the internet have grown so
quickly and offer us so much.  So if you hear what sounds like Santa's elves
tinkering with the perfectly good toys, its because the next version of
linux and Cobalt will be even better for their experimentation.  Viva - Free
Source Developers - go get'm guys.
I heard recently that God lives in Redmond, Washington as Chairman of the
Board - Well, who is going to dispute this?  Santa's linux tinkering elves
are - that's who!  Rock on!

-Max Cannon
ceo/co-founder
Worldwide Discount Stores,llc
http://www.worldwidebeautystore.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron C. Servies" <bservies@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [cobalt-developers] Question to all Developers


> On 2/21/2000 at 10:07 PM, jamesr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (James Robertson) wrote:
>
> > At 20:24 21/02/2000 , George Pajari wrote:
> >
> >
> > >The Qube marketing material is accurate. You will find setting up the
> > >Qube to be trivial and its Linux kernel reliable and robust. Setting
> > >up your own Linux system from scratch would be much more time
> > >consuming and not necessarily give you any more functionality (indeed
> > >probably less unless you know a lot about Linux and how to
> > >install/configure the various services). And as for that other
> > >operating system, it's simply Not There in comparison.
> >
> > I have attempted to do nothing unusual with my Qube.
> >
> > I have, however, found the web interface to be limiting and
> > problematic.
> >
> > There are many standard things that cannot be done easily on a Qube,
> > and it is often not obvious exactly what the interface is trying to
> > do.
> >
> > The documentation is completely inadequate.
> >
> > While we have got most things up and running, I would think twice
> > before ordering a Qube for a client.
> >
> > Considering that normal Linux documentation simply does not apply to
> > the Qube, we may well have been better simply setting up a normal
> > RedHat box.
> >
> > Just my $0.02,
>
> My experience has been the opposite: I now recommend Qubes to nearly
everyone who
> wants to run a SOHO.
>
> As a software engineer, I want to work on the product that keeps my salary
coming
> in, not learning how to set up a secure box for my home network; I wanted
an
> appliance.  Plug the Qube2 in, type a couple of numbers, and you're off to
the
> races.  It did exactly what it said it would for me; the documentation got
me up
> and running in very little time.
>
> I also question why normal linux documentation doesn't apply: under the
web hood,
> everything is a standard linux 2.0.x distribution, AFIK; very similar to
an old
> redhat distribution for x86.  It would be great to have a 2.2.x kernel for
the
> Qube, though, which would probably solve any discrepancy between current
> documentation and the documentation compatible with the box.
>
> I have made a few modifications: ssh instead of telnet (thanks to Cobalt
for the
> great FAQ on their site for this) and a modification to the Adaptec SCSI
module to
> run a less expensive version of an Adaptec SCSI card.  I wouldn't have
bothered
> with this, but I want to run my companies product on the Qube and require
SCSI
> support for that.
>
> Byron
>
>
>
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